Author Topic: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound  (Read 1618 times)

Jay_J

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2024, 07:49:45 AM »

storch was only co-producer on those roots joints .. not even a joint producer. grand wizzards were the producers.

as usual, u continue overrating storch role

2001 was going to be a classic no matter what …. dre had TONS of classic beats during that 96-98 era …. not sure what your fascination wit storch is, but it’s making me sound like i don’t like him.. when i actually believe he’s super dope. but come on, let’s be real here.

Co producer means producer, not a session player, he was a grammy winner producer already before being a "session player" for dre as you think.

Chronic was going to be a classic but think that nuthin but a g thang was never made. Scott learned a lot from dre of course and he was not resposible with sound and sonics of album, its dre and mel man. What i am saying scott brought something missing to make it ×2 better than what it was.

I dont need to overrate scott, he was one of the most famous producers in early 2000s. Also my favorite dr. Dre productions are mostly co produced by scott storch. He is my favoite co producer of dre.
 

Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2024, 08:12:38 AM »
Co producer means producer, not a session player, he was a grammy winner producer already before being a "session player" for dre as you think.

Chronic was going to be a classic but think that nuthin but a g thang was never made. Scott learned a lot from dre of course and he was not resposible with sound and sonics of album, its dre and mel man. What i am saying scott brought something missing to make it ×2 better than what it was.

I dont need to overrate scott, he was one of the most famous producers in early 2000s. Also my favorite dr. Dre productions are mostly co produced by scott storch. He is my favoite co producer of dre.

in hip hop there are levels to producer

there’s a primary producer

so that means there can be 2 equal producers on the same track (ala tim and bob, jimmy jam and terry lewis etc.)

then there’s co-producer, which is basically like a sous chef.. an assistant to the primary producer

so yea, he wasn’t the big producer we know til AFTER 2001 came out

2001 is not even co-produced by scott storch, so how can u call him your favorite co-producer of dre?

like what are these co-produced storch beats u talkin bout

saying 2001 is 2x better because of one piano riff is nuts. i mean, it’s a dope ass riff, don’t get me wrong…. but u use that same riff on a joint that isn’t as well produced and it gets lost in the mix

calling storch his best co-producer wit cats like the glove, budda, sam sneed, collin wolfe etc. in the mix is crazy talk to me

Jay_J

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2024, 09:22:15 AM »
in hip hop there are levels to producer

there’s a primary producer

so that means there can be 2 equal producers on the same track (ala tim and bob, jimmy jam and terry lewis etc.)

then there’s co-producer, which is basically like a sous chef.. an assistant to the primary producer

so yea, he wasn’t the big producer we know til AFTER 2001 came out

2001 is not even co-produced by scott storch, so how can u call him your favorite co-producer of dre?

like what are these co-produced storch beats u talkin bout

saying 2001 is 2x better because of one piano riff is nuts. i mean, it’s a dope ass riff, don’t get me wrong…. but u use that same riff on a joint that isn’t as well produced and it gets lost in the mix

calling storch his best co-producer wit cats like the glove, budda, sam sneed, collin wolfe etc. in the mix is crazy talk to me

I didnt day scott co produced 2001, you keep saying things that i havent said.

There are lots of dre productions scott storch is credited as co producer.

I know what producing, co production or additional production are bro. Dont stuck in terms.

Scott didnt do only still dre piano riff for 2001. He is involved in 8 or 9 songs of 2001.

After 2001 he started to credited as co producer for a lot of dr dre productions. I'm going to share a list for you soon.

Colin wolfe was never a producer, neither camara kambon.

Budda is one of my all time producers, he succeed things on his own with his solo productions for ice cube, westside connection, aaliyah, king t, xzibit, tank, etc...

But none of dre's co producets achived what scott could do as a solo producer. That makes him the best and most succesful co producer of dre.

We dont talk about who you like more or which is your favorite. We talk about facts, charts, single, sales, streams
 
 

Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2024, 09:31:25 AM »
I didnt day scott co produced 2001, you keep saying things that i havent said.

There are lots of dre productions scott storch is credited as co producer.

I know what producing, co production or additional production are bro. Dont stuck in terms.

Scott didnt do only still dre piano riff for 2001. He is involved in 8 or 9 songs of 2001.

After 2001 he started to credited as co producer for a lot of dr dre productions. I'm going to share a list for you soon.

Colin wolfe was never a producer, neither camara kambon.

Budda is one of my all time producers, he succeed things on his own with his solo productions for ice cube, westside connection, aaliyah, king t, xzibit, tank, etc...

But none of dre's co producets achived what scott could do as a solo producer. That makes him the best and most succesful co producer of dre.

We dont talk about who you like more or which is your favorite. We talk about facts, charts, single, sales, streams


you are talking about success .. i am talking about who is better … 2 different things

based on what you’re saying, swizz beats > battlecat LOL

i can check the credits again, but i’m pretty sure storch is NOT involved in 8 or 9 songs on 2001

shmosh

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2024, 10:41:35 AM »
Isn't it widely accepted that Storch started off as a session player and then graduated to producing (as in beat making, not producing like Dre does)?

Timbo even referenced it when they beefed "I'm a real producer and you're just the piano man"

^ Which on another note, despite Stoch being a dope producer, his response where he raps is horrific...
 

Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2024, 02:14:53 PM »
Isn't it widely accepted that Storch started off as a session player and then graduated to producing (as in beat making, not producing like Dre does)?

Timbo even referenced it when they beefed "I'm a real producer and you're just the piano man"

^ Which on another note, despite Stoch being a dope producer, his response where he raps is horrific...


yes LOL

Jay_J

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2024, 12:10:53 AM »

you are talking about success .. i am talking about who is better … 2 different things

based on what you’re saying, swizz beats > battlecat LOL

i can check the credits again, but i’m pretty sure storch is NOT involved in 8 or 9 songs on 2001

i told you that you have lack of knowledge about scott. ask me :)

let me give you the info

the watcher
fuck you
still dre
big egos
lets get high
bitch niggaz
murder ink
housewife (not sure, need to check my og copy)

are the songs scott is involved in.
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Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2024, 12:46:41 AM »
i told you that you have lack of knowledge about scott. ask me :)

let me give you the info

the watcher
fuck you
still dre
big egos
lets get high
bitch niggaz
murder ink
housewife

are the songs scott is involved in.


bro, u not slick at all LOL

u threw in housewife in there to fill your 8-9 song quota

 :mjlol:

storch had nothing to do with housewife

so like i said, storch was not involved in 8-9 songs on 2001.. and on most of the ones he was involved, he was the SECONDARY keyboardist…….

now let’s recap. you claimed storch was producing songs for the roots, which was FALSE. he was basically an assistant to the producers of those joints

then you claim storch did up to 9 tracks for 2001, which also turned out to be false

i think it’s YOU who needs to brush up on his knowledge of mr. storch, my friend

 :shittedon:

Jay_J

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2024, 01:22:15 AM »

bro, u not slick at all LOL

u threw in housewife in there to fill your 8-9 song quota

 :mjlol:

storch had nothing to do with housewife

so like i said, storch was not involved in 8-9 songs on 2001.. and on most of the ones he was involved, he was the SECONDARY keyboardist…….

now let’s recap. you claimed storch was producing songs for the roots, which was FALSE. he was basically an assistant to the producers of those joints

then you claim storch did up to 9 tracks for 2001, which also turned out to be false

i think it’s YOU who needs to brush up on his knowledge of mr. storch, my friend

 :shittedon:

i didn't check anywhere, just wrote what i remember. i might have wrong about housewife.

so it makes 7 songs? did you mean it could be 7 when u said it cant be 8 :)))

it wasnt wrong he produced for roots. he is credited as co producer, you just didnt know it and you still trying to deny, its funny. you said he was session player only before 2001, very false.

grammy and booklet says that not me.
 

Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2024, 01:44:32 AM »
i didn't check anywhere, just wrote what i remember. i might have wrong about housewife.

so it makes 7 songs? did you mean it could be 7 when u said it cant be 8 :)))

it wasnt wrong he produced for roots. he is credited as co producer, you just didnt know it and you still trying to deny, its funny. you said he was session player only before 2001, very false.

grammy and booklet says that not me.

but so far you are the only one giving false info, due to your fascination with scott storch

you called him a producer pre-2001 when he was only a session player who had 3 credits of CO-PRODUCTION lol

then you exaggerated and/or lied about how much work storch did on 2001 and credited him as the person behind the dr. dre sound of that era when he was merely the backup to the main keyboard player

and to sit there and insinuate that i’m not familiar wit the roots work is insulting tbh



where’s your copy? you ol storch fanatic you

Jay_J

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2024, 02:10:56 AM »
but so far you are the only one giving false info, due to your fascination with scott storch

you called him a producer pre-2001 when he was only a session player who had 3 credits of CO-PRODUCTION lol

then you exaggerated and/or lied about how much work storch did on 2001 and credited him as the person behind the dr. dre sound of that era when he was merely the backup to the main keyboard player

and to sit there and insinuate that i’m not familiar wit the roots work is insulting tbh



where’s your copy? you ol storch fanatic you

you make up something i didnt say again :) come on, be fair. i didnt say u are not familiar with roots, i said you are not familiar with scott enough.

i never lie, i guess i am only wrong with "one track", that doesnt mean lying or exegerrating. so he did 7 tracks off the 2001. thats huge. you was thinking its only still dre and big egos maybe. so you were wrong.

you said scott was a session player before he met dre, as you have the booklet he co produced 3 songs for roots, you was thinking he was just played keys. so you were wrong.

i was wrong on "one track" :) i accept that.

accept yours too. lets be fair to each other brother.

and lets go back to the point, scott was the missing key to dre, mel man and camara kambon team to me, we should thank "eve" for introducing him to dre.
 

Sccit

Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2024, 02:33:27 AM »
you make up something i didnt say again :) come on, be fair. i didnt say u are not familiar with roots, i said you are not familiar with scott enough.

i never lie, i guess i am only wrong with "one track", that doesnt mean lying or exegerrating. so he did 7 tracks off the 2001. thats huge. you was thinking its only still dre and big egos maybe. so you were wrong.

you said scott was a session player before he met dre, as you have the booklet he co produced 3 songs for roots, you was thinking he was just played keys. so you were wrong.

i was wrong on "one track" :) i accept that.

accept yours too. lets be fair to each other brother.

and lets go back to the point, scott was the missing key to dre, mel man and camara kambon team to me, we should thank "eve" for introducing him to dre.

if it wasn’t scott, it woulda been someone else

dre was on fire during that period and people like storch were just instruments to him

still dre and big egos were the only songs storch had input on …. the others, he was just being used as a session player

to pretend like this is some new knowledge is funny … my posting history is well documented, and i’ve discussed the roles on 2001 thoroughly on many occasions here

trust me, i had a homie named imperial (RIP) who i would regularly spend hours talkin hip-hop with and he was just like you- a huge scott storch groupie who swore up n down that storch was more than a piano man .. i crushed his whole vision of the role storch played when i broke down how he was more elizando or batson than he was glove or mel-man

my dude…the truth shall set u free.. you will eventually see the light.. im jus tryna help u see it sooner

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Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2024, 03:31:53 AM »
Ok grandpa lets get you to the bed.

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Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2024, 03:36:18 AM »

this is a lie lol

no he really did I also think I heard it in an interview.. because of course there's the o.g version from the EP but then when Storch first got brought in they added some keys to the LP release
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Re: Scott Storch Was Not Responsible for 2001's Success or Sound
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2024, 06:43:03 AM »
no he really did I also think I heard it in an interview.. because of course there's the o.g version from the EP but then when Storch first got brought in they added some keys to the LP release


storch is a notorious liar

the bass brothers already came out n said that wasn’t true