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Is Daz Dillinger a real producer ?
Soopafly DPGC:
--- Quote from: Jay_J on September 24, 2026, 01:59:41 PM ---Calitornia Love Remix is actually the OG version. Its produced by Laylaw of Above The Law. Dre hears it and want to use it for Pac. Then he change the beat, but keep the idea and chorus. Then they release it as produced by dr. Dre. Then laylaw got mad and asks WTF dre?? Dre says its company's fault and it has nothing to do with him but he says he will compansate it by using laylaws og beat in album. Laylaw calms down after this. Then album comes out and he sees his Og version is also credited as produced by dre. Then he cant even reach to dre and he sues death row. As i know he gets a good amount of money after that trial.
True story :)
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I think your timeline is off a bit. The original version was a Dre solo that already had the new beat. So did Laylaw produce the original Dre solo version, then Dre remixes his solo version, then Pac wants it so Dre fine tunes the solo version to include Pac and updates the beat? Dre didn't want to give it to Pac, Pac asked for it. By the time Pac heard Dre's solo version and asked for it for his album, Dre already had the updated beat for it.
Or are you saying there's a Dre solo version out there somewhere that has Dre rapping his two verses over the REMIX Laylaw original beat?
Sccit:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on September 24, 2026, 01:24:09 PM ---It really is pretty wild when you listen to those 2 tracks on 2002 and then listen to Mike Dean's versions on Dillinger & Young Gotti...like night and day
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yup .. you can clearly see daz is more drum and bass oriented
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Jay_J on September 24, 2026, 01:53:50 PM ---I think thats what a good producer does, to work with the right team. Even mastering a song is another expertness. Mixing also. You cant blame a producer for not mixing and mastering his songs. Those another different expertness. As long as you know whom to go to mix and master your song, you are doing the right thing and you are a good producer. As long as you know which instrument and instrumentalist you need in your song you are a good producer. Dillinger and Young Gotti album is my favorite DPG album and i thank Daz for bringing Mike Dean to create that classic.
Without colin wolfe, glove, mel man, mike elizondo, scott storch, dre wouldnt make those hits. But without dre there wouldnt be either. Dre is mixing his own songs, thats a bonus but just because timbaland is not mixing his songs that doesnt mean dre is better producer or opposite.
You are a good and top producer if you know who to go to make your song better in anyway.
Theres no such thing like "hey im dj bla bla and im making my songs on my own, i play all instrumentals, i mix it and i master it so im a better producer than daz or dre"... Even quik knows how to play guitar and piano he let musicians to play at the end to get the best for production.
Timbaland was already a great producer but he did his opus magnum songs with Danja.
Also Kanye.. he did some of his best work with Mike Dean.
We can say the same thing with Eminem and Luis Resto. Em has a signature soınd and he wisely have Luis close to himself to producing classics. Em cant play keyboard or any instrument. He also is not good at drum programming. But can you say Eminem is not a producer or somebody add production value to his works.
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yes... producers should absolutely use musicians .. but there's a difference between utilizing musicians to achieve a vision via orchestration (dre) and being together in a room with seasoned producers while piggybacking off their ideas (daz)
both great at what they do.. there's just levels to it
mixing is a different skill than producing.. but when the mixing process involves ideas, song structuring, and overall mapping out the track to your vision, then that is a supplementary production... and in the case of an album like dogg food, dre put in more work during "mixing" in shaping the sound than daz did on what he was credited as producer for.
i've had lengthy discussions with numerous people who were directly involved in the album, so im not just speakin out my ass here.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Jay_J on September 24, 2026, 01:59:41 PM ---Calitornia Love Remix is actually the OG version. Its produced by Laylaw of Above The Law. Dre hears it and want to use it for Pac. Then he change the beat, but keep the idea and chorus. Then they release it as produced by dr. Dre. Then laylaw got mad and asks WTF dre?? Dre says its company's fault and it has nothing to do with him but he says he will compansate it by using laylaws og beat in album. Laylaw calms down after this. Then album comes out and he sees his Og version is also credited as produced by dre. Then he cant even reach to dre and he sues death row. As i know he gets a good amount of money after that trial.
True story :)
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laylaw did work on the remix only ... he had a beat that dre liked .. dre completely reworked it for the "california love" remix you hear on all eyez on me ... the reason they put that version on all eyez on me is because the og was still slated to go on dre's solo at that time
laylaws revisionism has been all over the place
WCEric:
I think Daz can produce and he has signature touches like these two songs - this first song reminds me of Ambitions and this is his remix and its outside of rap:
Another one Daz did which sounds eeriely similar:
Because a lot of Daz's stuff sounds the same - he definitely has to be his own producer. I mean, sure he has co-producers or raps over other people's beats but he always credits them. I think that Daz is a producer in regards to most of what he's done in the industry and I'm sure there's stuff he's not properly credited for that might not even have his signature sound like the two records above (I.E. Doggystyle The Album). But he stays beatmaker because that's what he has the budget to do and is comfortable with and no one really gets onto him to make beats outside of his camp. I think he knows the equipment and uses it, but doesn't really produce much due to demand - he just makes beats and sequences what he likes for albums.
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