snoop is the one of the biggest sellouts ever!

[M Dogg™]

People complain about wack ass Fabolous, poppy P.Diddy, mainstream Neptunes.. but when Snoop works with them.. it's all gravy, cuz he's expanding his horizon right ??

Fuck outta here.

First, I would never hate on Puff. He produced All I Need (remix) for Method Man, Step Into A World (remix) for KRS-One, and endless Biggie cuts, and Craig Mack's early days. Yeah Puff sold out, but at least he had a real hip-hop background, and allows himself to work with others. Snoop working with Puff is like Jay-Z working with Dre. Jay-Z was a great rapper, Dre a producer that makes a number of radio hits. Snoop was a great rapper, and Puff made a number of radio hits. In the end, it's the same, and no one disses Dre for making Watcher 3. I don't hate on Snoop, why. His put in 11 years, and done his thing. If he sold out, fine, at least he kept it gangsta for all this years. Nelly, Fabolous, they still need to build a rep, Snoop has his, and it's all good.

[smerlus]

damn jome, your post makes you an underated genius. i've been saying that shit since i started posting here...there's some people that fucking love snoops dick so much that it's sickening...snoop has done EVERY bitch move that any other rapper out there has done...

love songs...nelly, ja rule
fake gang banging at his age....xzibit
whack ass lyrics...kurupt
selling out his coast...dre
trying to go mainstream...eminem, ja rule...

the only difference is that you can make fun of any of those just named, and it's ok...but as soon as you say something about snoop...there goes the karma and the thread flaming. snoop dickriders are the biggest hypocrits on this board

[M Dogg™]

*rolls eyes* Kids

basically, no rapper really deserves to get dissed. They all do their thang. Except Nelly, who had the guts to diss KRS-One which disrespects Hip-Hop's past. All others are fine, there's always been commerical and streets. So whatever. Snoop never sold out, and Puff is alright. I never hated Puff. The other shit, it's all good. I never hated Ja, sided with 50 on the beef, but I don't hate Ja. Fabolous is alright, reminds me of a young Fresh Prince. And I write heavily about why not to diss Will Smith. So whatever. Snoop doing his thang, Puff doing his thang. Haters can hate and sleep, but in the end, Snoop still making money.

[smerlus]

lol the guy callin us kids is still in school...that's the funny part...but anyways...i can't agree with you more, i have nothing against any of those rappers....i'm just not going to waste my money buying some sorry pop shit. if i think your music sucks....plain and simple, i don't buy it...that's why i have only 5 snoop cd's (greatest hits included)

[BigCain]

Just saying.. all these people on the Westcoast part of the forum are complaining about all the Eastcoast-music on the radio, often naming cats like Nelly, Ja Rule, Fabolous, Benzino, J.D., P.Diddy, Lil Kim, Freeway, Neptunes, Jay-Z even 50 Cent they complaining about..

Then, you might notice a SUDDEN change.. SNOOP DOGG have agreed to work with them...
(Counts for almost all the people mentioned above)

Suddenly the attitude is totally different.. "Snoop expands his horizon", "Snoop can work with who he wants, it's dope anyway", "Snoop and Fabolous, ohh that's awesome".. etc.
Blasphemy & hipocritsy at it's best.. easily seen by those who don't adore EVERYTHING Snoop does.

OK I got you on that... But it's possible to not feel an MC until an MC U do like colabs with them and you see the other Cat in a new lite... SNoop has ALWAYS put in work with crazy different performers... SNoop has given love to everyone.... So it's only makin news now cuz of the song he just got that award for... So people that bang for Snoop are doin a change up now on how they feel towards those radio artist you mentioned cuz Snoop is down with it... Everyone needs to realize that in Hip Hop, you can bang for your favorites WITHOUT tryin to tear down others...

[M Dogg™]

lol the guy callin us kids is still in school...

Yeah, his also a senior in college and 22.

[smerlus]

been there...done that

[M Dogg™]

And still a hater. I don't know if situations are different, but if you check my sister and my story, we weren't exactly raised to go to college. So being from the barrio, I guess you can say I sold out, and left the street ways for a book. Not exactly the same thing, but it's simular. Snoop does his thang, let him, don't hate on it. Just don't buy it. This is a fan forum, I think anyone that has to come the here to diss people is throwing away their time. For reals, on a westcoast board, you hav to come here and talk about how Snoop has sold out. Sad.

[Lil Suge Knight]

That was well broken down, to me Snoop is a huge sellout, hearing Beautiful playin makes me cringe, I want to see the chuck wearing, braided snoop dogg with his original homies, Snoop doesnt need anyone else behind the boards xcept Warren, Soopa, or Daz, just Snoops name alone can sell a record, yeah he isnt sellin as much as he used to, hmmmmm maybe cos u changed your style, if it isnt broke then why fix it,

People see Snoop as that LBC Gangbanger, not a pimp, not a lover not anything else, so when they see him like this he aint gonna be popular, stay true to yourself, dont be a follower of fashion, cos fashion has seasons

I still love Snoop Dogg, but I agree that he is a sell out.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

Him and LL Cool J are probably the two biggest sellouts in the industry. I'm not counting people like Nelly and Ja Rule because they were never anything but commercial, but both LL and Snoop were dope and then changed in order to maintain their popularity.

Daz, Kurupt and Soopafly were not sellouts for leaving Death Row, one, because they all stayed until 99-2000, when they hadn't been payed for ages. If Death Row hadn't been in such a bad financial situation then I think all of them would have stayed. Secondly, they all went and continued doing their west coast thing, which is certainly something that it is very hard to say about Snoop.

[_That_Cracka_J]

People complain about wack ass Fabolous, poppy P.Diddy, mainstream Neptunes.. but when Snoop works with them.. it's all gravy, cuz he's expanding his horizon right ??

Fuck outta here.

On point.

[Rag_J]

I agree Snoop is a pop artist, but I don't mind it, man he's been in the came since 1988(the 213 demo) and he has to be able to do what the fuck he wants to, and get his paper.


Only one thing about your post VerbalAssault, you claim he left Death Row for No Limit, because he saw how he could make more money over at Master P's label, but the fact is that Suge hustled Snoop for alot of $$ and Snoop didn't wanna become the next rapper dead. That's why he changed label. A dumb move to go to No Limit in my opinion, altough he had to get outta Death Row.  

[Don Jacob]

what i find funny is.....2/3'd of you JUST bought doggystyle no more than 2 years ago. i put my DICK on that



as a OG snoop fan from 92' who has experienced all of his changes, i don't call snoop a sellout. i call him a smart dude/artist who knows what he's doing.  all of you want him to make g-funk and rap about gangsters and bitches and weed and keep making doggystyle. that was 10 years ago......10 years ago we were all playing with ninja turtles eating glue and singing the alphabet.....if we've  changed THAT much imagine how much snoop has changed. he's gone from a 19 year old felon from long beach to a millionair rapper with kids and a wife. i'm sure half of our parents wouldn't do the things they did in the 70's now would they?


snoop .....or anyother big name westcoast cat don't do g-funk no more becuase it's played out! it had a healthy 8 year run and it was time to evolve. obviously 80% of this board  were never around during the peek of this era ....so how are they going to understand the fallout of this sound. most of you think g-funk is as old and fresh as the newest j-lo song,lol.

i don't think snoop works with warren daz and whoever else you mentioned , becuase they're still stuck in that era ....and snoop is trying to grow. it would be one thing to totally turn his back on his friends and not HANG with them......but that's not true. a sell out would  not do what snoop is doing.

when i see a song Snoop Dogg Featuring Nelly or something i get pissed yeah , cuz fuck i hate nelly. but then you got to remember like you so elequently stated before , he's only using these star of the moment cats to reach out to the next generation of hip hop fans, to keep his name out there. he's not going to have a long standing working relationship with them . y'all got to understand that. i'd call snoop a sell out if he was all over the next nelly and st lunatic albums and talking in country gramar saying hot in herre and shit like that. nah he  does his thing with them and moves on.

you also got to remember SNOOP HAS NOTHING TO PROOVE  anymore. everything he does is for fun and love of it nowadays . i don't blame him one bit.


man i really don't feel like going into in depth detail about snoop's career choices, but everything he does is for a reason and i think the only reason why you people are still getting snoop records is cuz snoop knows the importance of musical growth.

[Rag_J]

That last post said exactly what I'm thinking. Props!

[asdasda]

d i think the only reason why you people are still getting snoop records is cuz snoop knows the importance of musical growth.

And what about people who aint still getting snoop records? I think he has lost a lot of fans? (one is me)