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Jome:
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--- Quote from: Pha®oahe Jome on July 04, 2003, 11:24:36 PM --- ::)
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dont be upset jome...the truth must hurt?
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I read the line about 50 setting hiphop back, and then concluded with "bullshit".
I couldn't be bothered reading the rest of the bull..
The hating has gone over board.. before you left it was at least sorta believable, but now it seems you don't even believe what you are writing yourself.
S.G.V.:
--- Quote from: Pha®oahe Jome on July 05, 2003, 10:46:32 PM ---
I read the line about 50 setting hiphop back, and then concluded with "bullshit".
I couldn't be bothered reading the rest of the bull..
The hating has gone over board.. before you left it was at least sorta believable, but now it seems you don't even believe what you are writing yourself.
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i believe everything i write...50 is ruinin hip hop...since hes in the forefront...if he was just playin a back role...hed still be hurtin hip hop...but not as bad as he is now...
btw....as long as everyone hates on ja like this...or hates on nelly etc...ima continue to hate on 50...cuz if its ok to hate on ja or nelly...then its fine to hate on someone as talentless if not worse than them...
Jome:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 05, 2003, 11:16:37 PM ---
btw....as long as everyone hates on ja like this...or hates on nelly etc...ima continue to hate on 50...cuz if its ok to hate on ja or nelly...then its fine to hate on someone as talentless if not worse than them...
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There's the key right there..
Hate, just to hate.. and maybe make up some reasons to hate on the way.
Whatever happened to good old hating with some actual legit reasons ??
Don Breezio:
ok first off...jas style is nothing like dmx...and his old still when "he was still aight" was the gayest shit i've heard in a long time...holla holla was dope and the rest of that album sucked..and i have to disagree w/ SGV on one thing...he said 50 wasnt capable of making rhymes that are a little more complex...he is very capable of that...thats why i think he is such a bullshit rapper and so is everyone like him. they are all capable of doing something with what they have and they choose to put out bullshit. and yes hoe hopper...i will tell you right now im not a very big fan of the bay area stuff...sure i like the beats and stuff (or some of them) but for the most part i dont really like the rappers...there are a few i am feeling but not enough for me to say that the bay area adds anything to hip hop that we couldnt do without...and hoe hopper...you asked me a few posts back if i would call nate dogg an R&B bitch...i know i said them but i really meant ja w/ the r&b bitches...50 doesnt really have a problem with them....nate dogg isnt an R&B bitch...but he is R&B. i would call some of the tracks you named R&B/Rap Collabo's too...i would definetely call "Lay Low" an R&B/Rap Track...in fact i would consider all of them R&B/Rap to a point...but when i say R&B/Rap i mean stuff like Between me & You, Put It On Me, and yes...21 Questions is. nate has something no other R&B singers do...the capability to be on a track and have it be straight gangsta hip hop or be on another track and have it be R&B...very few R&B singers can do that...TQ can do it, Butch Cassidy can do it, and Kokane can do it (to a point) and thats all...no other singers can do that. i have to agree w/ what SGV said about 50 and snoop too...the reason i would say some of their stuff is bullshit is because they are in the higher class of hip hop...they are the ones selling or the ones well known and they should be setting an example for up and coming rappers and for the ppl that listen to them. if a young kid hears snoop rapping about weed or 50 rapping about guns and sex then whats he gonna think is right? atleast if you make it a little deeper and keep the same point to the song the child wont understand the shit lol...but 50 is very capable of making something deep but yet he uses his skills to put out a track that promotes sex, violence, and drugs...he is a role model. for this same reason i dont agree w/ a lot of the things eminem raps about (mainly on the marshall mathers lp)...the mmlp was total bullshit. it was all poppy songs that the general public would love and it said nothing useful. whereas the eminem show got a lot more personal and a lot more complex. every artist is capable of putting out something that helps the status of hip hop...but hip hop is in the worst condition it has ever been in...we have an abundance of bullshit music. and it isnt even just in hip hop...every genre of music has it. rock has shit like Sum 41 and Blink 182 (although many disagree w/ me), R&B has shit like Lil' Mo, and Sisqo (even though he does make some dope songs), Country has (well i dont know country but im sure it has some too), and even techno is getting a little fucked up (T.A.T.U. can definetely be considered a downfall of techno)...damn...i'm tired of typing...i got more to say but as you can see this is a long ass post...ill type more later lol
S.G.V.:
--- Quote from: Pha®oahe Jome on July 05, 2003, 11:21:10 PM ---
There's the key right there..
Hate, just to hate.. and maybe make up some reasons to hate on the way.
Whatever happened to good old hating with some actual legit reasons ??
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i got actual reasons...i couldnt stand him in 99 either...
breezy...u were on point...
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