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S.G.V.:
--- Quote from: The Hoe Hopper on July 06, 2003, 09:14:42 AM ---I hope u didn't read my post propely otherwise I don't think we'll ever get any further cuz u said the same shit u said 4 posts ago..
I said he rapped about being Gangsta not he was gangsta.. I know Pac wasn't Gangsta.. 50 isn't even all about fuck the world he's just about himself and what he is/did n shit.. his mentioning of getting shot ain't got shit to do with Pac
u don't nkow that far if u think 50 dissed Ja first.. Ja started frontin on 50when he saw him with a guy who robbed Ja before.. that's how it started, not with a diss on wax.. Body Guard was dope but I coulda told what u was gonna say about it before I heard it.. there was nothin wack about Bump Heads, it's not about the oppinion of a guy who prefers a Benzino track over 90% of Em's catalogue but about a neutral view on it.. I am being neutral when I say it was nothin that special but it was definatly not wack either and it doesn't 'the hurt the community'.. Hail Mary was the only unoriginal track even though that callin it bitin is damn stupid
and for the last time I'll repeat I know they not rappin and I know their solo shit ain't hiphop but their hooks are hiphop hooks
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50 uses the pac formula...but were never gonna agree on that...and actually i dont like benzinos albums...hes got beats...thats it...hes a much better producer than em...but hes a horrible rapper...tho...when he wants to come nice....he is very capable...bump heads was horrible...that shit was borin...g-unit have no charisma in their raps...theyre ur usual everyday mixtape rappers...they didnt say anything new in their disses....hail mary was just corny....em used pacs cadence...50 used pacs verse from hail mary and against all odds...that was the worst diss record in a while....and if nate is a hip hop hook....then so is mary j...so is tq...ray j....anyone who does hooks and sings...there is no difference...
D.R.E.-Dogg:
Em's verse on Bump Heads was far from horrible.. no wonder u don't like a track with G-Unit on it if u don't like G-Unit at all but it doesn't mean the track was garbage..
like I said Hail Mary wasn't exactly original I I agree they shoulda come up with more but it's still not bitin and it's the only weak diss they released
and if a Nate hook is RnB in ur mind 50 still had one of em on his album.. Ja had Ashanti on every single he released since those 2 J Lo collabs expect for one with another RnB singer..
S.G.V.:
--- Quote from: The Hoe Hopper on July 06, 2003, 10:01:40 AM ---Em's verse on Bump Heads was far from horrible.. no wonder u don't like a track with G-Unit on it if u don't like G-Unit at all but it doesn't mean the track was garbage..
like I said Hail Mary wasn't exactly original I I agree they shoulda come up with more but it's still not bitin and it's the only weak diss they released
and if a Nate hook is RnB in ur mind 50 still had one of em on his album.. Ja had Ashanti on every single he released since those 2 J Lo collabs expect for one with another RnB singer..
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G-unit ruined the whole track...ems verse was pretty much the same as the rest of his disses...nothin new...and how is 50 takin two verses from pac not bitin?...what is bitin to you?...cuz to me...bitin is takin someones material...without really changin it up...now a sample is one thing...takin a couple lines is coo...but a whole verse?...as for jas hooks...lets no forget 50 had a single with destinys child...im not sayin he has the same amount as ja...but 50 is as guilty as ja when it comes to havin r & b....on his records...
Twentytwofifty:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 06, 2003, 10:54:09 AM ---...and how is 50 takin two verses from pac not bitin?...what is bitin to you?...cuz to me...bitin is takin someones material...without really changin it up...now a sample is one thing...takin a couple lines is coo...but a whole verse?...
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If that's biting then hip-hop is just full of "biters" then from Buckshot to Snoop Dogg to Mos Def to Xzibit to Jay-Z to Black Rob to..................
D.R.E.-Dogg:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 06, 2003, 10:54:09 AM ---G-unit ruined the whole track...ems verse was pretty much the same as the rest of his disses...nothin new...and how is 50 takin two verses from pac not bitin?...what is bitin to you?...cuz to me...bitin is takin someones material...without really changin it up...now a sample is one thing...takin a couple lines is coo...but a whole verse?...as for jas hooks...lets no forget 50 had a single with destinys child...im not sayin he has the same amount as ja...but 50 is as guilty as ja when it comes to havin r & b....on his records...
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he wouldn't have done it if it wasn't for the ja beef.. it's not like he's either tryin to be Pac or anything like that he did it for one and only reason to parody Ja's bitin.. Ja's bitin is the only reason the track exists, Em wrote his verse outta Ja's perspective and Aftermath confirmed it's just a ja-clowning track in a mail to Dedicato.. imo it's pretty damn obvies but after it's been even confirmed there's really no need to talk about bitin..
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if u call "bitin to clown someone else's bitin" still 'bitin' then he did bite.. but not in a serious way
and I wouldn't blame a rapper for don one track with an RnB bitch to blow up.. I didn't hate on Ja for doin the first track he did with J Lo.. but from that moment on that's all he did.. 50 wasn't known when he recoreded the album so he got him a known feature.. nothin wrong with that..
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