Why Is Nobody Tripping...

[Code Blue]

i really dont see whats the big deal that Em produced for Pac and that Ja had Pac on his album if Pacs mom doesn't mind why should i

. But, these cats have a hissy fit when someone they don't like uses Pac beats/verses.

That ain't it at all. Em made a dope beat for a dope tracc. Period. Em respects Pac, and wanted to help his name last in a good way. And IMO he succeeded. Period. Ja on the other hand WANTS TO BE PAC. He claims Pac would ride with him, Em never said anyhting like that. Ja said he's the next Pac, Em never said anything like that. Ja even said he could bring Pac bacc or some dumb shit like that. Eminem knows damn well better than to do anything even remotely close to that. That's the difference, and that's why we accept Em doin' a beat for Pac, but don't accept anything Ja does that involves Pac. You see our point now?

[SGV]

That ain't it at all. Em made a dope beat for a dope tracc. Period. Em respects Pac, and wanted to help his name last in a good way. And IMO he succeeded. Period. Ja on the other hand WANTS TO BE PAC. He claims Pac would ride with him, Em never said anyhting like that. Ja said he's the next Pac, Em never said anything like that. Ja even said he could bring Pac bacc or some dumb shit like that. Eminem knows damn well better than to do anything even remotely close to that. That's the difference, and that's why we accept Em doin' a beat for Pac, but don't accept anything Ja does that involves Pac. You see our point now?

Your point doin't make sense.

Em wants to be Pac as much as Ja. Remember, White Pac. Not White Biggie. Not White Eazy. White Pac. That means he wants to be Pac. Ja thinks him and Pac would be coo, is that too far fetched to think? No. Why is that so bad to say? "Oh my God! Ja said him and Pac would ride together," LMAO. C'mon. He's letting people know that he likes Pac, and that he would've tried to be homies with him. Ya'll read way too much into that. Ja never said he'd bring Pac back, never. He said if you want to see Pac, fuck it, he's here. All he was saying was, you want Ja to be such a Pac biter, then here you go, Pac is here now. He's not saying he is Pac, but he was just letting you people hear what you wanted to hear.

[CRAFTY]

Why trip when there's nothing to trip on?
The song is good, period.

[Kokane]

Em also called himself the new Ice Cube he doesn't bite Pac his music is nothing like Pac and he doesn't try to act like Pac

[eS El Duque]

"It's like these kids hang on every single statement we make"

^^^  


I don't really care if Ja or Em do a remake/remix/produce a pac song, if pac(his mom) is getting paid for it...s'all good. but using pac songs to promote yourself is fuked up.

[Hatesrats™]

Just having fun with some of Eminem's 2Pac references.....
check EM'.
{didn't realise there was so-many....and more)

{Blame OHHLA for Typo's}

Artist:Eminem
Album: The Slim Shady LP
Song: Just Don't Give A Fuck

"So when you see me on your block with two glocks
Screamin _Fuck the World_ like Tupac
I just don't give a fuuuuuck!!"
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Artist:Eminem
Album: The Marshall Mathers LP
Song: Marshall Mathers

(grrrr, ARF ARF) "Or leanin out a window, with a cocked shotgun
Drivin up the block in the car that they shot 'Pac in
Lookin for Big's killers, dressed in ridiculous
blue and red like I don't see what the big deal is
Double barrel twelve gauge bigger than Chris Wallace
Pissed off, cause Biggie and 'Pac just missed all this
Watchin all these cheap imitations get rich off 'em"
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Artist:Eminem
Album: The Eminem Show
Song: Soldier

"Yo.. never was a thug, just infatuated with guns
Never was a gangsta, 'til I graduated to one
and got the rep of a villain, for weapon concealin
Took the image of a thug, kept shit appealin"

lol......^^^
this one is funny if you read into it, like peep's do on Ja.

"I'm like a thug, with a little bit of 'Pac influence
I spew it, and look how I got you bitches rockin to it
You motherfuckers could NEVER do it like I could do it
Don't even try it, you'll look stupid, do not pursue it
Don't ever in your life try to knock the truest
I spit the illest shit EVER been dropped to two inch"
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Artist:Eminem
Album: The Eminem Show
Song: Say What You Say

"And I'ma only sucka punch and swing without warning
And swing to knock somebody's fuckin head off
Cause I know if they get up I won't get a chance to let off
Another punch I'm punk rock, no one's punk
Don't give a FUCK!  White 'Pac, so much spunk
When I was little I knew I would blow up and sell a mill'
and grow up, to be Atilla, go nuts and be a pillar"
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Artist:Eminem f/ Nate Dogg
Album: The Eminem Show
Song: 'Till I Collapse

"The criminal cop killin hip-hop villain
A minimal swap to cop millions of 'Pac listeners
You're comin with me, feel it or not you're gonna fear it
like I showed ya the spirit of God lives in us"

"It goes Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie
Andre from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me
But in this industry I'm the cause of a LOT of envy
So when I'm not put on this list, the shit does NOT offend me"
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Artist:Eminem f/ G-Unit
Album: White Label 12"
Song: Bump Heads

"Got undercover cops, that'll legally pop you
And I den seen a lotta people, cross the line
But this motherfucker Ja, must have lost his mind
That ex, got him thinking he was DMX
Then he switched to Pac, now he's tryna be him next
So which one are you, ex, Luther, Pac or Michael"
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Artist: 50 Cent f/ Busta Rhymes, Eminem
Album:White label
Song: Hail Mary

[Verse 1: Eminem]
You ain't no killa, you a pussy
That ecstasy done got you all emotional and mushy
Bitch is wearin' rags in photos, Ja's words bein' quoted
In The Source stealin' Pac's shit like he just wrote it
You loudmouths, pray to God hopin' no one's listenin'
See 50 comin' for me I'ma guard my, my position
No one'll pay attention to me, please Gotti
Here I go, give me this pill
Ecstasy done got me feelin' so... invincible
Now all a sudden I'm a fuckin' mad man who screams like I'm Pac
But I'm not, enemies, Hennessy
Actin' like I'm great, but I'm fake, I'm crazy
Sweat drip get me off this trip, someone stop this train
Some say my brain is all corrupted, fucked from this shit
I'm stuck, I'm addicted to these drugs, I'ma quit
sayin' motherfuckas names before somebody fucks me up
Ain't no pussies over here partner, see you in hell, fucka

[Chorus: Eminem]
Come get me
Motherfucka, if you want Shady
If Pac was still here now
He would never ride with Ja
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na
Get off that E
'Fore you try to come and fuck with me
It's Aftermath here now, Shady Records got it locked
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la

LOL...."Stealin' Pac's shit like he just wrote it"
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Artist:Eminem f/ D-12
Album: Quitter (White Label) 12" *
Song: Quitter


{*music stops*}

Aiyyo Head, that's why I fucked your mother you fat motherfucker!

{beat changes to 2Pac's "Hit 'Em Up"}

Kill Whitey! - Hahaha
Kill Whitey! - Detroit!  What?  What?
Kill Whitey! - .. yo, yo
Kill Whitey! - Haha!  Look

First off, fuck your songs and the shit you say
Diss my wife, but at least I got a bitch, you gay
You claim to be a Muslim but you Irish White
So fuck you fat boy, drop the mic, let's fight
Plus I punch you in the chest, weak hearts I rip
Whitey Ford, forty and white, lethargic ass dickhead
I keep 'em comin while you runnin out of breath
Steady duckin while I'm punchin at your chest, you need to rest
Dilated, go ask your people how I leave ya
with your three CD's, nobody sees, when they released
Evidence, don't fuck around with real MC's
who ain't ready for no underground beef, so fuck geeks
I let you faggots know it's on for life
but Everlast might die tonight, haha
Fat boy murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and take a heart pill, you know!

[Chorus: Eminem]
Grab 380's when you see Slim Shady
Call the doctor to heal your heart
They shocked you back to life at the clinic
but you 'bout to get relapsed any minute
Honkey, I hit 'em up!

Kinda 2pac ish....^^
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Artist:50 Cent f/ Eminem
Album: Get Rich or Die Tryin'
Song: Patiently Waiting

"Take some B.I.G. and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot
Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?"
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*Bump's "Dead Worng" (The Notorious B.I.G. feat Eminem)

I wonder if Em got paid for that one?
Hatesrats 2oooTre

[Don Seer]

^ now the same for ja rule please


woo i got a new answer to this "because snoop, jay-z and suge said so"

really?!  see this >> http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=42540

[eNgIeS]

Coz Pac's mom asked him to do it?

or...

Coz its not for promoting his own project, but for helping an official Pac project?

or...

Coz he's not seen as a fake Pac (like Ja).


Never tripped about Crooked doing anything, apart from that Nu Mixxes "2 of americaz most wanted" abortion remix

50 + Em previously only put Pac related stuff out for free on mixtapes,  whereas all the others have seemingly used it as a form of cashing in.

I agree with that

Also I dont mind when someone who worked with Pac or helped Pac out before Pac could return the favour puts out something unreleased they did or that they did & remixed it later, like Daz & Makaveli, but when its someone like Ja who is biting the whole image (bandana clothes bald head goatee going on radio saying he is Pac) & also putting his vocals & str8 beat rip offs on his albums to increase sales ("So Much Pain" for example) is what i'm against

[SGV]

(bandana clothes bald head goatee going on radio saying he is Pac) & also putting his vocals & str8 beat rip offs on his albums to increase sales ("So Much Pain" for example) is what i'm against

Em got the bandana and claims to be White Pac on record. What's the diff? See, I don't get it, you cats are just contradicting. Not to mention, since when has it been wrong to want to remake a song? Everything is done to increase sales, even your buddy Eminem does things like that. Why do you think he's doing those mixtapes? Doing that song for the Pac/Big soundtrack? To increase sales. I don't see a difference. It all comes down to prefence with you foos. If you like the artist, you'll approve, if you don't then you're gonna knock it. Me, I can't stand none of them, Pac included. I don't care what any artist does, within reason, as long as they make a tight song.

[Don Seer]

lets leave em and ja rule out of it for ths one...

ok.. so why did no one trip when Nas did it, but did when Jay-z did?

Nas, appeared on Better Days guesting on Thugs Mansion, also later put the song/or a version of cant remember which own his own album...

Jay-Z, shamefully ripped off "me & my girlfriend" with Bonnie & Clyde and stuck his girlfriend beyonce on there.. didnt even put a single 'nod' to pac in there.. the song was all over everywhere and he had everyone thinkin that was HIS shit..

[SGV]

lets leave em and ja rule out of it for ths one...

ok.. so why did no one trip when Nas did it, but did when Jay-z did?

Nas, appeared on Better Days guesting on Thugs Mansion, also later put the song/or a version of cant remember which own his own album...

Jay-Z, shamefully ripped off "me & my girlfriend" with Bonnie & Clyde and stuck his girlfriend beyonce on there.. didnt even put a single 'nod' to pac in there.. the song was all over everywhere and he had everyone thinkin that was HIS shit..

I don't see any difference here. According to you people, if you put Pac on your album, then you're wrong. So, they both should be knocked for it. I don't think Jay-Z "shamefully ripped off" anything. It's a remake, so what?! Everyone does remakes. Snoop did plenty of them, so I guess he shamefully ripped off Slick Rick, right? C'mon. You people are way to protective of Tupac. Jay didn't put a nod to Pac in the song, because it wouldn't fit. But, at least the video had a Pac reference. Nas on the other hand, he just laid a verse to a song. He threw it on his album. That's all, no big deal.

[Don Seer]

lets leave em and ja rule out of it for ths one...

ok.. so why did no one trip when Nas did it, but did when Jay-z did?

Nas, appeared on Better Days guesting on Thugs Mansion, also later put the song/or a version of cant remember which own his own album...

Jay-Z, shamefully ripped off "me & my girlfriend" with Bonnie & Clyde and stuck his girlfriend beyonce on there.. didnt even put a single 'nod' to pac in there.. the song was all over everywhere and he had everyone thinkin that was HIS shit..


i think the main difference is respectful use, which ultimately is a subjective thing

I don't see any difference here. According to you people, if you put Pac on your album, then you're wrong. So, they both should be knocked for it. I don't think Jay-Z "shamefully ripped off" anything. It's a remake, so what?! Everyone does remakes. Snoop did plenty of them, so I guess he shamefully ripped off Slick Rick, right? C'mon. You people are way to protective of Tupac. Jay didn't put a nod to Pac in the song, because it wouldn't fit. But, at least the video had a Pac reference. Nas on the other hand, he just laid a verse to a song. He threw it on his album. That's all, no big deal.

theres a huge difference... pissed me off when i heard people saying "i like that new jay-z song". and i'm like "its am old 2pac song..." they're like.. wow i never knew.. that pisses me off.. plus the fact it as a sinlge in the first place (just like ja rule did with pain)

with the nas thing its obvious its a pac verse.. and nas didnt put it on his album until after it was on the amaru project, and he didnt have it as a single.


and u picked a bad example with snoop/slick rick

Yeah, gotta say what's up to my nigga Slick Rick
For those who don't like it, eat a dick
But for those who with me, sing that shit
As it go a little something like this

props right at the head of the song...  but yeah he never did with 'vapors' and many others

[··: O.G Kody™ :··]

SGV you have made yourself sound childish with this. Silly remarks about Ja Rule blah blah blah.

The fact of the matter is Eminem is a HUGE 2Pac fan. He "probably" still produces for free but like he said before he will give you a beat if he respects you as an MC e.g. Nas, Jay Z, Redman etc. Yes it's free promotion for him but that's beside the point. It's a decent track unlike those "re-made" by Jay Z, Ja Rule etc.

Eminem is a fan and never denied that. I think people read far too much into little things (like the "white pac" line).

[Lil Suge Knight]

Geez this is toooooo pathetic, you guys should listen to yourselves, Em did this, Ja does this 50 does this, blah blah blah

Now I aint dissing, but this is getting old, let these artists do there thing, if their ripping off a dead guy for their own benefit or using his material to pay homage to him let them do it, cos at the end of the day we cant say or do anything that'll make them stop or affect record sales.

There is some saying that by copying or trying to be like someone that that person should feel complimented.

[Code Blue]

@ SGV: Man, you make a grip of assumptions, and also do a lot of grouping and sterotyping by sayin' shit like "you cats", and "you foos". Not everyone thinks the same around here ya know?