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Quote from: smerlus on November 18, 2003, 09:40:33 PMQuote from: Don Breezio on November 18, 2003, 09:09:30 PMQuote from: Trauma on November 18, 2003, 09:07:55 PMQuote from: SeerZilla on November 18, 2003, 07:09:00 AMthere is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.There IS peace after Victory. The reason England didn't get peace, is because they got their ass whooped by the American colonys, it made the country weak. If England would have beat us, we would have lived here like nice little children and followed whatever the King told us to, we wouldn't have any other choice. there IS peace after victory? cuz im pretty sure america has been victorious several times and yet...whats that? we're still at war? hmmm...kinda fucks up your point there doesnt it traumawhere's the peace? germany isn't communist, italy isn't communist......russia doesn't start shit anymore....japan doesn't fuck shit up....panama doesn't fuck shit up....afghanistan really doesn't mess with nothing....mexico doesn't fuck with us....canada doesn't fuck with us....britain doesn't fuck with us.... want me to name some more peaceful countries after US victories?we're still at war, its like a big chain, we go to war with one country and win then another country wants a piece. we will never stop fighting unless we do just that...STOP FIGHTING.
Quote from: Don Breezio on November 18, 2003, 09:09:30 PMQuote from: Trauma on November 18, 2003, 09:07:55 PMQuote from: SeerZilla on November 18, 2003, 07:09:00 AMthere is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.There IS peace after Victory. The reason England didn't get peace, is because they got their ass whooped by the American colonys, it made the country weak. If England would have beat us, we would have lived here like nice little children and followed whatever the King told us to, we wouldn't have any other choice. there IS peace after victory? cuz im pretty sure america has been victorious several times and yet...whats that? we're still at war? hmmm...kinda fucks up your point there doesnt it traumawhere's the peace? germany isn't communist, italy isn't communist......russia doesn't start shit anymore....japan doesn't fuck shit up....panama doesn't fuck shit up....afghanistan really doesn't mess with nothing....mexico doesn't fuck with us....canada doesn't fuck with us....britain doesn't fuck with us.... want me to name some more peaceful countries after US victories?
Quote from: Trauma on November 18, 2003, 09:07:55 PMQuote from: SeerZilla on November 18, 2003, 07:09:00 AMthere is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.There IS peace after Victory. The reason England didn't get peace, is because they got their ass whooped by the American colonys, it made the country weak. If England would have beat us, we would have lived here like nice little children and followed whatever the King told us to, we wouldn't have any other choice. there IS peace after victory? cuz im pretty sure america has been victorious several times and yet...whats that? we're still at war? hmmm...kinda fucks up your point there doesnt it trauma
Quote from: SeerZilla on November 18, 2003, 07:09:00 AMthere is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.There IS peace after Victory. The reason England didn't get peace, is because they got their ass whooped by the American colonys, it made the country weak. If England would have beat us, we would have lived here like nice little children and followed whatever the King told us to, we wouldn't have any other choice.
there is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.
Quote from: Don Breezio on November 18, 2003, 09:47:11 PMQuote from: smerlus on November 18, 2003, 09:40:33 PMQuote from: Don Breezio on November 18, 2003, 09:09:30 PMQuote from: Trauma on November 18, 2003, 09:07:55 PMQuote from: SeerZilla on November 18, 2003, 07:09:00 AMthere is no peace with victory either... people will fight people regardless.. its why the british gave up their imperial pursuits and has ended up handing everything we conquered back.There IS peace after Victory. The reason England didn't get peace, is because they got their ass whooped by the American colonys, it made the country weak. If England would have beat us, we would have lived here like nice little children and followed whatever the King told us to, we wouldn't have any other choice. there IS peace after victory? cuz im pretty sure america has been victorious several times and yet...whats that? we're still at war? hmmm...kinda fucks up your point there doesnt it traumawhere's the peace? germany isn't communist, italy isn't communist......russia doesn't start shit anymore....japan doesn't fuck shit up....panama doesn't fuck shit up....afghanistan really doesn't mess with nothing....mexico doesn't fuck with us....canada doesn't fuck with us....britain doesn't fuck with us.... want me to name some more peaceful countries after US victories?we're still at war, its like a big chain, we go to war with one country and win then another country wants a piece. we will never stop fighting unless we do just that...STOP FIGHTING.We weren't fighting anybody in the 90's, and we still got the shit bombed out of us, costing us more lives than we've lost in war in 30 years. Explain your logic.
^ We didn't finish the job.By the way, in your logic, how long do we have to wait for them to stop attacking us? We were at war 10 years before we were bombed. So, we need to stop fighting people for what, 20 years? 30 years? I've got a better idea. Lets estimate how many world trade centers we would have lost by then, and compare it to the 400 people that have died in Iraq. I think i'd rather die in Iraq than have my wife die in a fucking elevator in Manhattan. Grow some balls, just because you're a pussy doesn't mean the whole united states should be. Your pacifist bullshit has NEVER worked throughout the world, unfortunately, death, war, and destruction is the only way to go. Even Paul McCartney agreed with the war, and he co-wrote "All you need is love".
I think i'd rather die in Iraq than have my wife die in a fucking elevator in Manhattan. Grow some balls, just because you're a pussy doesn't mean the whole united states should be.
Quote from: Trauma on November 18, 2003, 10:06:25 PMI think i'd rather die in Iraq than have my wife die in a fucking elevator in Manhattan. Grow some balls, just because you're a pussy doesn't mean the whole united states should be. And you have balls because you cheer on the soldiers? LMAO @ THIS FOOL
i'm not saying war is needed to solve every dispute, but what do you do to a group of people that say they are going to kill you and stop at nothing to kill you and they're not apart of any government army, they don't follow any rules and they don't have any cute little uniforms to distinguish them from the average person? how about this.... we'll take all you peace lovers, fly you over to iraq and you can reason this out with with the same people that would shoot you in the face and not think twice about it. then we'll see how many of you make it back..and how much success you have.also you people screaming peace on this message board are doing the same amount of public service that trauma is doing so don't go around calling him lazy or whatever.......and come at me with that "you talk but haven't done anything for this country" i was working on a US Naval ship already in the Gulf when our nation was attacked....i was standing watch and i was the first one to see the message. then i spent 10 hours a day, every day for the next three months without seeing land more than 5 hours at a time and probably only once every three weeks. when any of you could put that kind of time into your beliefs than i'll listen to you arguements about peace. until then you're all just a couple of people with ideas
I've never really understood that arguemnt.Using your logic, I can say:You hated the war, how come you didn't fly to Iraq and become a human shield?You support helping the homeless, when's the last time you've worked at a soup kitchen?You admire Louis Farrakan, When's the last time you've donated/worked for the NOI?