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PG Invites You To Question and Attack Islam!!
Maestro Minded:
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so all the rules in islam that were created to give the male population power were gods will?
or were they possibly fabricated by the male leaders to help maintain male dominance over their women.. it was really nice of god to allow men multiple wives. or perhaps some intelligent leader fabricated the original message to serve a purpose that benefited him.
im not trying to be a jerk, all religions have been tampered with. its easy to see if you are willing to open your eyes
my personal belief is that an open mind is the most important asset a person can have. if you notice how fast children develop and mature compared to adults its quite impressive. Why is a child can cover more ground maturing in 18 yrs than an adult does in 30. personally i think its cuz once u enter adulthood many people lose their ability to maintain an open mind once that happens personal progress halts and u end up being the same with minor differences 30 years later as you are this very day.
u stated you dont want me to tell you islam has been falsified. thats a pretty close minded statement, it tells me your whole arguement is coming from the fact that u refuse to hear a different story from what u have been told before. sometimes being open to possibilities outside ur beliefs is to your benefit.
but its ur life... please dont argue that im wrong though if you refuse to even acknowledge other possiblities simply because its too devasting to imagine that something which has been in existance for so long might not be 100% what god intended
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1. Islam Does NOT Tell The Men To Maintain A Dominance Over The Women. I Urge You To Read The Holy Qu'ran And Highlight The Places That Shows That The Men Are More Worth That The Women, On Contrary, Its Written That Women Treasures And Should Be Treated With Respect
2. A Muslim Man Have The Right To Have More Than One Women Because Islam Take The Humans For What They Are. Its A Known Fact That Often When Countries Dont Get Along, They Declare War. Alotta Young Unmarried Men Dies During The War, Witch Means That Theres Much More Women In A Country. Islam See Mariage As A Human Right, But If Every Man Would Get Married, Alotta Women Would Be Left Alone, THATS The Reason Why A Man Have The Right To Have More Than 1 Women, To Make Sure That Every Women Will Be Blessed With The Right To Have A Man By Her Side... Now Tell Me.. Does That Sound Unfair ??? ???
3. You Come Here And Basicly Calls Islam For Bullshit, And You Want Me To Be Openminded?? If I Would Say That Maby Your Mother Is A Whore, Could I Expect You To Be "Openminded" And Discuss About Wether She Is A Whore Or Not ??? You Have Absolutley No Proof, But Still You Claim That Islam Is Looking Down On Females, And That The Scripts Of Islam Have Been Edited By A Man, When The Truth Actualy Is That Islam Is The ONLY Religion Witch Havent Been Edited By A Human Bein.
And By The Way, I HAvent Seen ANY Mature 18 Years Old Kids. The Older You Get, The Wiser You Get, Thats A Fact.. Would You Claim That You Are More Mature Than Your Father?? And For The Open Minded Part: The Older You Ge, The More Information You Gather And The Easier You Will Have To Remove Bullshit From Realistic Issues. If You Wanna Call It Being Close Minded, Its Your Call...
Ant:
i already said a few times its unfair to argue if your going to make up things that i said...
i never attacked islam. someone came on here and said religion is fabricated by man.
u then replied "which religion is fabricated by man"
i said most of them... never did i single out muslim until u brought muslim into an agruement so i went with the flow cuz u brought it up and this topic is basically about islam..
im a christian and included my religion in that comment... now you are coming at me trying to turn me into a muslim hater or some shit i have no idea.
secondly i never said the quran has been edited by a man again you are putting words in my mouth. i said the priests interpret it in their own way to the people, i also said that there is another book i cant recall the name of it that is interpretations of the quran which is a major part of the islam religion actually i believe it is referred to as the hadith.. the hadith was not written by god it was written by men 100 or so years after muhammad died.
finally i really dont follow muslim beliefs that much, im not muslim. all i was getting at is that religion is influenced by man... granted muhammad wrote the quran but its up to man to decide the interpretation of how to follow it since muhammad is long since passed. at times all religions are used in ways in which god has not intended
wars have been fought over every religion, politics influence every religion. the world is not perfect and its crazy to believe even the best religion if such a thing exists has not been distorted in the slightest bit
if u think otherwise its ur life...
i never came at you and called ur mom a whore which is what u compared my attack to doing i never even attacked ur religion directly... i criticized all things equally included my own religion
you went off the wall with accusations towards me and changed my words around go back and read my posts and then compare them to your counters they dont even match up..
so whatever... have a day
Maestro Minded:
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1. Islam Does NOT Tell The Men To Maintain A Dominance Over The Women. I Urge You To Read The Holy Qu'ran And Highlight The Places That Shows That The Men Are More Worth That The Women, On Contrary, Its Written That Women Treasures And Should Be Treated With Respect
2. A Muslim Man Have The Right To Have More Than One Women Because Islam Take The Humans For What They Are. Its A Known Fact That Often When Countries Dont Get Along, They Declare War. Alotta Young Unmarried Men Dies During The War, Witch Means That Theres Much More Women In A Country. Islam See Mariage As A Human Right, But If Every Man Would Get Married, Alotta Women Would Be Left Alone, THATS The Reason Why A Man Have The Right To Have More Than 1 Women, To Make Sure That Every Women Will Be Blessed With The Right To Have A Man By Her Side... Now Tell Me.. Does That Sound Unfair ??? ???
3. You Come Here And Basicly Calls Islam For Bullshit, And You Want Me To Be Openminded?? If I Would Say That Maby Your Mother Is A Whore, Could I Expect You To Be "Openminded" And Discuss About Wether She Is A Whore Or Not ??? You Have Absolutley No Proof, But Still You Claim That Islam Is Looking Down On Females, And That The Scripts Of Islam Have Been Edited By A Man, When The Truth Actualy Is That Islam Is The ONLY Religion Witch Havent Been Edited By A Human Bein.
And By The Way, I HAvent Seen ANY Mature 18 Years Old Kids. The Older You Get, The Wiser You Get, Thats A Fact.. Would You Claim That You Are More Mature Than Your Father?? And For The Open Minded Part: The Older You Ge, The More Information You Gather And The Easier You Will Have To Remove Bullshit From Realistic Issues. If You Wanna Call It Being Close Minded, Its Your Call...
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pansophy wrote taht most religions are fabricated by men, and you agreed. .. and then you also claimed that "all religions are fabricated by man" --> all religions are fake, but still you contradict yourself by claiming being christian...
then you claimed that Islam gives men more power to " maintain male dominance over their women", witch is false
then you ask me to be open monded when you claim that the religion of Islam is bullshit...??
soo how can you now claim that you never attacked Islam... all the negative "facts" you gave were all false... you didnt say a shit correct... so what am i supposed to belive??
like you said.. war have been fought in generations, but Islam is the only religion thats admitting it and doing something for the women because of the war...
Infinite made this thread for yall to attack Islam for having negative sides, but you have only written lies and contradictions
Ant:
ok consider this...
im sorry my definition of fabricated was incorrect, by fabricated i meant it was changed to fit different groups needs...
not that it was bullshit i thought i was eluding to that, but u keep accusing me of calling your whole religion bullshit when i have never done so.. i simply said that it has been changed up from its original intentions slightly as have all religions..
i have never given any negative "facts" as you have said, becuz i have never refered to anything i have given as fact.. i have told you that i dont know much about islam.
my agrument was that all religions have been fabricated by man from what god originaly had desired them to become... i used what limited knowledge i possess from my interactions with people of different religions, stuff i have learned in school, and world news to try and show you a different side of things..
yet you continually attack me and change what i say..
i gave u futher evidence what i said was true by pointing out that the hadith is also a highly refereced muslim text that was created by man..
u tried to infer that your whole religion was based on god... all im saying is that men have interpreted muslim as they have interpreted christianity and judaism... if u were christian i would have argued using christian points but there is no point for that
u completely skip over points i make and change others to suit your arguement... and to be blunt you are kind of getting annoying...
i dont know what other way to properly explain myself to you since if i create a logical explanation u will simply manipulate it and then reply back to a made up post u think i made...
your method of arguement is one of the most commonly used methods by those with nothing to say.. its called running an arguement in a circle, a new point is brought up and u mis interpret it or try and bring up an old one to make the conversation drag out until finally one person gives in...
and since this is the internet its very easy to do this...
so right now i have wasted about a half hr of my time on this... u made one good point about the reason for multiple marriages which i normally would argue against just for the sake of arguement cuz thats what this whole post is about... but im sure there would be no point to that either cuz u would simply continue to make no sense...
have a day im done
Trauma-san:
Joseph Smith claims the Angel moroni gave him the book of mormon (showed him where it was buried), and took and gave it back to him several times, and finally took it with him.
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