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do you consider rappers musicians?
NobodyButMe:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on January 20, 2004, 06:00:14 AM ---singing doesnt envolve more skill or uniqueness than rapping. headnut.
playin a guitar isnt any "better" than makin a beat.
get over it.
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that's like saying playing a piano isn't any 'better' than tapping a pencil on your desk. i don't know what you mean by 'better', but it's damn sure more musical and damn sure more difficult. don't try to tell me that playing a guitar isn't any 'better' than making a beat if you've never tried playing the guitar. and, anyone can rap - not anyone can sing. that's not to say that anyone can write raps, cuz most people can't. but how can you tell me that making a beat isn't any more difficult than making a melody? have you actually tried doing either? i've tried them both and have to say that making a melody is much more difficult than creating a beat.
by the way, let's just stick to the argument instead of calling each other names.
7even:
lmao I got a LOT of fellaz who play guitar quite good and I aint impressed at all--a LOT of homies who can play nirvana and metallica songs... so.. however, I know NOONE who can make a beat that doesnt sound like shit.
PLUS not everybody can rap.. everybody can talk, but not rap. no, certainly not. "talking" offbeat and whack as fuck.. if you consider that rapping, then actually everybody can sing too. PLUS it is more difficult to bring some "melody" in your raps than in your singing. I know by experience.
NobodyButMe:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on January 20, 2004, 10:04:57 AM ---lmao I got a LOT of fellaz who play guitar quite good and I aint impressed at all--a LOT of homies who can play nirvana and metallica songs... so.. however, I know NOONE who can make a beat that doesnt sound like shit.
PLUS not everybody can rap.. everybody can talk, but not rap. no, certainly not. "talking" offbeat and whack as fuck.. if you consider that rapping, then actually everybody can sing too. PLUS it is more difficult to bring some "melody" in your raps than in your singing. I know by experience.
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true what you said about the 'not everybody can rap, everybody can talk' thing. but we have melody in our voices. i can tell a story, and you can tell by the tone of my voice whether it's a scary story or a funny story or a dumb story. it doesn't take a genius to change the tone of their voice and explain something as if they are actually describing it. if you can tell a story, and make people believe it, you can paint a verbal/mental picture for someone.
but maybe in the end, it is a matter of opinion. i think that playing a guitar is much more difficult and much more time tested than anything ever done on a drum machine or any rap song.
LyRiCaL_G:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 20, 2004, 12:51:46 AM ---^lol i'm not white, strike one
real black dudes don't type like that ^, only try hard calton banks, nerdy, white washed black dudes. strike two
also if "niggaz" were such superior musicians why is a white boy the best rapper out now, and almost every genre y'all started got out done by a bunch of white dudes. strike three you're out!
white people and black people need to get over themselves.....y'all try to hard to be superior and different from each other , but fail to relise how similar y'all are.
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first of all, wateva colour u are, u dono shit about black people and ya def aint black, secondly that gay strik bullshit.......ummm yeah, 3rdly nah homie, aint nuttin fake about me n my colour, we both sickness, u dono shit about black so how can u speak like im a nerd or sumshit? hahaha, dont make me laugh whitey
oh n ummmmm
best pop star......mj/usher....u choose, black
best rnb-black
best female-black
best rock star- black
best rapper-black
man we can even take this further.......
fastest runner-black
best basketball player-black
best soccer star - arguably black
best cricketer-black
best GOLFER-black
dammmnnnn homie, u dont wanna fuck with us, keep listenin to slipknot and that white nerdy kids bullshit who got no friends, keep puttin on that make up homie, i'll stick to whats real
face it man, niggaz be runnin the game
NobodyButMe:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on January 22, 2004, 11:44:55 AM ---first of all, wateva colour u are, u dono shit about black people and ya def aint black, secondly that gay strik bullshit.......ummm yeah, 3rdly nah homie, aint nuttin fake about me n my colour, we both sickness, u dono shit about black so how can u speak like im a nerd or sumshit? hahaha, dont make me laugh whitey
oh n ummmmm
best pop star......mj/usher....u choose, black
best rnb-black
best female-black
best rock star- black
best rapper-black
man we can even take this further.......
fastest runner-black
best basketball player-black
best soccer star - arguably black
best cricketer-black
best GOLFER-black
dammmnnnn homie, u dont wanna fuck with us, keep listenin to slipknot and that white nerdy kids bullshit who got no friends, keep puttin on that make up homie, i'll stick to whats real
face it man, niggaz be runnin the game
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goddam why is every single topic always brought down to the level of another race argument? as if people can change their race. always somebody talkin some shit about how their race is so much better than everyone elses, yet didn't do shit to be a part of that race. i'm white. i was born white. and can't (nor do i want to) do a goddam thing to change it.
what does it matter who the best athletes and best entertainers are? as long as they entertain...right? but seriously, some of the examples you gave are just wrong. usher the king of pop? lmao. not a chance. and who's this black rock star you're talking about that's the best? eminem is better than 99 percent of the rap game, if not THE BEST in the game. tiger woods isn't black, he's thai. and best female what? that's just plain stupid to say that the "best female" is black. now let's take it down a notch: the richest man in the world is white. the most powerful man in the world is white. and i'm sure that the majority of people making money off of those black people you mentioned are probably white. and who cares? i sure as fuck don't.
and for dude that said "black people make better music than all ya'll whites" or some shit like that - that is probably one of the stupidest most ignorant statements i ever heard. maybe according you your opinion, but not everybody in the world happens to think that black music is better than white music. as if it matters. it's music. and i'm sure that more than 50 percent of the world thinks rap music (aka - what you call "black music"), is pure shit. i wouldn't be in here if i didn't like rap music, but to say that it's the best form of music is just plain ignorant. as if music is color.
can't we just have a meaningful discussion without it boiling down to race? damn i'm sick of hearing about how great black people are and how great white people are. no one did anything to be black. no one did anything to become white. why must we always talk about it?
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