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Best Beat Of All Time Tournament
Don Jacob:
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--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on January 19, 2004, 07:45:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PM ---if some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art
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What kind of retarded statement is that? Is it a joke?
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Thats what I was thinking. If you're going by that then I could quite easily say that over sampling parliament and zapp isn't art for west coast beats.
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and if you did say that, i'd say you were right.
and if you notice just about ever song i put up there is an original composition orif they use any kind of sample it's a small sample or a vocal one.
Don Jacob:
--- Quote from: Kill on January 19, 2004, 09:29:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PM ---if some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art
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like how many east coast rap songs have u heard in ur life? 2? 1?
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actually i can turn this one back around on you.....how many james brown songs have you heard!? do yourself a favor listen to some more james brown then relisten to any east coast or basic produced rap jam and you'll notice every drum loop is modeled after a james brown one..... the cliche rap drum beat is a drum riff from a 63' james brown song. yes a lot of west coast artists over sampled funk music but from my expert ears, at least they layed some kind of original composition over it. or molded something around it.
the west coast is to beats as the east coast is to lyracists
Kill:
I'm not a big James Brown fan, but it's not like i ain't heard any song by him. When you said 'sampling' i didn't think about drum riffs tho, but about vocal and melodic samples which would have made your statement ridiculous. R&B, Funk and Soul were all very influential to hiphop and if you think there's one certain drum riff that's cool but if you wanna reduce east coast hiphop to sampling the sound of its musical roots you can't reduce it to James Brown. Plus a hiphop beat consists of much more than a drum loop. And like you said yourself, west coast stuff is more funk-based but it lives off older stuff too. And IMO east coast artists 'lay original compositions' over their sampled musical structures too
On The Edge of Insanity:
--- Quote from: Kill on January 20, 2004, 05:21:26 AM ---I'm not a big James Brown fan, but it's not like i ain't heard any song by him. When you said 'sampling' i didn't think about drum riffs tho, but about vocal and melodic samples which would have made your statement ridiculous. R&B, Funk and Soul were all very influential to hiphop and if you think there's one certain drum riff that's cool but if you wanna reduce east coast hiphop to sampling the sound of its musical roots you can't reduce it to James Brown. Plus a hiphop beat consists of much more than a drum loop. And like you said yourself, west coast stuff is more funk-based but it lives off older stuff too. And IMO east coast artists 'lay original compositions' over their sampled musical structures too
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Exactly, there is more to hiphop than just the drums, and most of the time this is all producers sample from James Brown. They then build the tracks over the drum beat, in the same way as west coast producers build the rest of the beat around the funk sample they have used.
VOTING FOR THIS STAGE CLOSED!!
Ras Kass' Toothpick:
This is for the "Best Beat" not the most original music or best production job.
I didn't check the sample for "T.R.O.Y." but I'm pretty sure those horns are just lifted and I don't care where he got it from, it's still some amazing music.
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