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if some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art
Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PMif some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art What kind of retarded statement is that? Is it a joke?
Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on January 19, 2004, 07:45:45 AMQuote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PMif some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art What kind of retarded statement is that? Is it a joke?Thats what I was thinking. If you're going by that then I could quite easily say that over sampling parliament and zapp isn't art for west coast beats.
Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on January 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PMif some of y'all are wondering why i didn't include any east coast beats.........i'm sorry but over sampling james brown isn't art like how many east coast rap songs have u heard in ur life? 2? 1?
I'm not a big James Brown fan, but it's not like i ain't heard any song by him. When you said 'sampling' i didn't think about drum riffs tho, but about vocal and melodic samples which would have made your statement ridiculous. R&B, Funk and Soul were all very influential to hiphop and if you think there's one certain drum riff that's cool but if you wanna reduce east coast hiphop to sampling the sound of its musical roots you can't reduce it to James Brown. Plus a hiphop beat consists of much more than a drum loop. And like you said yourself, west coast stuff is more funk-based but it lives off older stuff too. And IMO east coast artists 'lay original compositions' over their sampled musical structures too
This is for the "Best Beat" not the most original music or best production job. I didn't check the sample for "T.R.O.Y." but I'm pretty sure those horns are just lifted and I don't care where he got it from, it's still some amazing music.
listen to any hip hop record from 85-92 . it is WELL KNOWN how cliche it was to sample james brown. not just his drum licks but his horn section, strings, voice ect. it also spilled over into the mid 90's......west coast artist i give a lil more leeway cuz most of their beats are more original.