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Gay weddings.......what are your thoughts
MANBEARPIG.:
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--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on February 26, 2004, 10:54:29 PM ---homosexuality is not a choice .....it's a mental problem. Talk to ANY fucking gay person and they have some truely fucked up story to tell you about their past.
encouraging homosexuality is like encouraging people with eating disorders , it's not something that you're born with or something you necessarily choose it's a result of mental and or physical abuse.
also something i want to touch on here is something i saw on msnbc the other day. Dude (gay) said that we will one day look back on this and laugh that we as a nation ever were against gay marriage like interracial marriage. i say BULLSHIT. A black MAN and a white WOMAN is something that is natural ....anyone who is against interracial marriage is a biggot....race is something that is in your blood not a mental problem. anyone who puts homosexuality and race relations in the same context is ignorant.
i have no problems with gay people, hell my favorite teacher of all time was a lesbian, but it pisses me off when people try to bend the law because they FEEL .....keywork FEEL , not ARE, being opressed.
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OMG your stupid! as Max said did you hear this from your grandfather? Why don't you actually talk to some gay people, some of them did have traumatic pasts, most, as you will find, didn't. Of all my gay friends the worst story between them is that this one chick was adopted, other than that they are just like you and me.
--- Quote from: Lincoln on February 25, 2004, 01:27:44 PM ---Against it 100%. I think that it just encourages gays. You don't support other people who deviate from the sexual norm, so why gays? I'd have no problem giving my tax $$$$ to homosexual reformation.
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Fuckin idiot! if you want to talk about the sexual norm then being gay is the current norm, may have sounded better in your head but you didn't think about the society around you today all this Metrosexual, queer eye, bullshit is making homosexuality the norm
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Okay, Marriage is defined as The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife. as in man and woman but but marriage is also the strongest way for you to prove your love for someone, another person. Gays getting married is no different than a man and woman getting married if the love is there. Relgions do not condone homosexuality and gay marriage but I don't believe that should stop two very religious homosexual individuals to become a couple and perform the same daily actions as a male/female couple. How can we look at marriage the same way and say that gays are destroying the sanctity of marriage when we can go and get married and divorced overnight? At least gays are doing it the right way and not getting a britney spears style quicky marriage if you ask me those little white chapel marriages have destroyed the meaning of marriage not gays because when you come down to it marriage is about love between two people I say they should be able to if they truly mean it and it is not just because, most of those gays that got married will have stronger bonds than most straight marriages and most will last longer.
On the gay adoption thing I'm 100% for it also. Gays cannot produce children but if they did why would the children be gay? what aspect of the world shows that 2 gays will have a gay child? Homosexuality is a mental thing, not a dissorder like dumbass corleone said. Everysingle gay in the world came from a straight family and sex between man and woman so why would two gays have a gay child? soo why does it have to be that only straight coulpes can adopt? Why do straight couples adopt? because they cannot conceive 9 times out of 10 not just because they want a kid but dont want to work. Gays cannot conceive so they should have the right to adopt. If it is true that a child in a gay society will grow up to be gay then evry child born in 2002--> will be gay because of the massive influence of homosexuality on television today. I do not see the reason why a child should be adopted by a straight family that will maybe abuse them or do any other horrible thing sthan be adopted by a gay couple who may show an undying love for that child.. If homosexuality really has nothing to do with us straight people then why are we giving it so much thought? a lot of people say it is their choice but then say the dont think they should be able to get married. Fuck it all gays, straights, no one should be able to get married until we can once again recognize whta marriage is.
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shut up fool your gay "friends" [i'll reframe from laughing here] are most likely not going to tell you something intimately bad that happened to them. Alot of shit that happens to the physically/mentally abused it blocked out or forgotten , or ignored , or hidden, ect. that's why they have a fucked up head. they can't deal with a traumatizing event. saying the bullshit you said is like saying people with anorexia nervosa are born that way... ::)
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Not once did I say anyone was born gay it is a choice they make but who the fuck are you as the top mental analyzer on the gay psyche? They could be lying but you don't know me or the people I speak of, just because you paranoid ass doesn't trust anyone or maybe doesn't have any close friends doesn't meant that everyone else in the world cannot trust someone else in a conversation. you idiot you must have been watching an educational news reel on homosexuality recetly where they say it is a mental "Problem"when it has been proven that that is not true, more porn stars had soem sort of traumatic experience that led to that than gays.
Don Jacob:
so being gay is a choice now.....now this is where your argument crumbles . Ask any gay person if being gay is a choice and they 'll tell you no. They're right, but they're wrong about being born that way....the only way you could be born is emotionally fragile which inflicted with traumatic event....from infancy on, wether they remember or not, can mentally screw up a person leading to such social disorders . for example kids who turn goth, kids who are quiet and scared to death to talk when present among others, homosexuality, beastiality, ect.
and what gives me credentials on this? well you two were almost right when you asked if my grandpa told me.....actually my grandma is a psych Doctor. Also shit was on the discovery channel and i saw some shit like this on TLC too about kids experiencing trauma early on in their life.
Trauma-san:
I think there's 3 types of gays. This may end up being the most ignorant post I've ever made, but it's how I see it right now.
1. Some people that are gay, are actually kind of born that way... I'm talking about severe cases, like people being born disfigured or a woman with a penis or something like that. Genetic defects.
2. Most gays, and this is people I've met, I've talked to tons and they all have the same stories... most have, like Don said, had some sort of problem in childhood. Their mom raised them alone, or their dad beat them, or somebody molested them, something.
3. I do think that some people choose to be gay. I've known women and men who were pretty ugly, and never had much success getting dates and things earlier in their lives, and are now gay.
That's the way I see it.
MANBEARPIG.:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on March 01, 2004, 08:30:13 PM ---so being gay is a choice now.....now this is where your argument crumbles . Ask any gay person if being gay is a choice and they 'll tell you no. They're right, but they're wrong about being born that way....the only way you could be born is emotionally fragile which inflicted with traumatic event....from infancy on, wether they remember or not, can mentally screw up a person leading to such social disorders . for example kids who turn goth, kids who are quiet and scared to death to talk when present among others, homosexuality, beastiality, ect.
and what gives me credentials on this? well you two were almost right when you asked if my grandpa told me.....actually my grandma is a psych Doctor. Also shit was on the discovery channel and i saw some shit like this on TLC too about kids experiencing trauma early on in their life.
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Why isn't your sexual preference a choice, I say choice not as an off teh cuff thing but as somethingnthey've gradually come to accept and realize. I've seen shit on Discovery and TLC that has disproved the notion that every gay is mentally ill and/or been abused. I'm not saying that none of the gays in the world ever experience some type of tauma but for you to sya that every single one has is just as wrong as that. Ultimately it is a choice and a realization in their life, maybe it took something in their life to bring it out but those feelings do not come frm anywhere. Gays are more likely to be Emotionally unstable until they realize their feelings but after that I doubt they are as fucked up after this than before. And shy children experiencing some type of trauma? Most children are shy when around completely new faces and are in fact silent after some type of major trauma but how fair is it to say all shy children are repressing something? you are pinning a lot of common dispositoins in the world on childhood trauma...that is not fair. Sadly though a lot of other things you mentioned such as beastiality is just fucked up...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
I think a lot of gays are born gay...Like those six year olds who play with barbie dolls instead of action figures...Those are the the sensitive ones with the lisp...Those are the ones who are born gay...PeACe
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