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Don Seer:
on that 'gap' thing.. if you vote for convservatives that's what'll happen.. its them same with em in this country     even worse.. in america i dont see any difference between your parties in that respect.. anything slightly 'left' is accused of being communist... doh!  

in my eye, convservatism is for the blue bloods and the rich.. because they know they'll keep their wealth.

it keeps the poor down by favouring the rich... their view is.. if you cant afford something. tough.





infinite59:

--- Quote from: Overseer on June 08, 2004, 08:21:48 AM ---on that 'gap' thing.. if you vote for convservatives that's what'll happen.. its them same with em in this country     even worse.. in america i dont see any difference between your parties in that respect.. anything slightly 'left' is accused of being communist... doh!  

in my eye, convservatism is for the blue bloods and the rich.. because they know they'll keep their wealth.

it keeps the poor down by favouring the rich... their view is.. if you cant afford something. tough.


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The Democrats are just as much giulty for the gap between the rich and the poor.  It was actually the Kennedy and Carter admininistrations that set that inevitable phenomenon into motion.  The same money that funds the Democrats, funds the Republicans.  Either way your are voting for the big corporations and expansion of the military and prison business at the expense of the taxpayers.

Woodrow:

--- Quote from: Overseer on June 08, 2004, 08:21:48 AM ---on that 'gap' thing.. if you vote for convservatives that's what'll happen.. its them same with em in this country     even worse.. in america i dont see any difference between your parties in that respect.. anything slightly 'left' is accused of being communist... doh!  

in my eye, convservatism is for the blue bloods and the rich.. because they know they'll keep their wealth.

it keeps the poor down by favouring the rich... their view is.. if you cant afford something. tough.







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IMO Wealth creation doesn't create poverty.

Just a question, Have you ever read any Ayn Rand?

Atlas Shrugged is the bomb, but The Fountainhead is my personal favorite. If not, you should check it out. Damn good books with nice messages.

Don Seer:
well i guess i agree that wealth creation doesn't create poverty BUT a system where the poor are basically systematically kept down by the costs the system occurs, be they health, education or anything else IS a system that perpetuates poverty in my view.



--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on June 08, 2004, 08:43:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: Overseer on June 08, 2004, 08:21:48 AM ---on that 'gap' thing.. if you vote for convservatives that's what'll happen.. its them same with em in this country     even worse.. in america i dont see any difference between your parties in that respect.. anything slightly 'left' is accused of being communist... doh!  

in my eye, convservatism is for the blue bloods and the rich.. because they know they'll keep their wealth.

it keeps the poor down by favouring the rich... their view is.. if you cant afford something. tough.


--- End quote ---

The Democrats are just as much giulty for the gap between the rich and the poor.  It was actually the Kennedy and Carter admininistrations that set that inevitable phenomenon into motion.  The same money that funds the Democrats, funds the Republicans.  Either way your are voting for the big corporations and expansion of the military and prison business at the expense of the taxpayers.

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if you had read properly i did vaguely suggest that there is no real 'left' in america afaik. theres right, and righter.. lol

Montana00:
Ok i dont the exact % of your salary that goes to taxes. Since im bad at math plz give me some leeway. im going to make up numbers for my post. lol i can only do math with 10's numbers

Fake Situation
Wealthy man makes $1,000,000 a year.
Poor man makes $10,000 a year.

10% goes to taxes. So Rich man pays $100,000 in taxes. Poor man pays 1,000.
Lets say Bush did ANOTHER tax cut that gave back 5%. The rich man will get i dunno....50,000? and the poor man gets $500.

Ok thats not realistic, but the fact remains. OF course rich people are going to get rich off of tax cuts. THEY PUT MORE MONEY INTO TAXES. they cant give poor people more money in tax cuts, because then its money they never  had. Which then it should be called welfare.

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