some of yall got some twisted logic when it comes to g rap (tray deee<--> fakes)

[W-Side]

some of yall got some twisted logic when it comes to g rap (real dudes like tray deee<--> fakes)


you do like gangsta rap i assume.. from what I see you don't like fake gangstas

then again most of yall don't seem to like real gangstas neither and you want them locked up

you say criminals like tray deee who won't learn from the past and stay thuggin like that should be locked up in order to protect the rest of society


so tell me then.. what's a gangsta rapper supposed to be..?


when talking about gangsta shit, glorifying violence n shit a rapper has to be either a fake or a dangerous criminal so how the fuck yall gonna say "that dude's a fake, fuck him" and then once a real g is charged with a specific crime (I recognize you don't hate them until you hear about a specific case, before that even the now-haters were like "dude's keepin it real" long as they just heard about him being for real and not to be fucked with) you say he should be locked up forever or even sentenced to death LOL


you gonna make up your minds.. either like and accept fake gangstas - or - like and accept real gangstas commiting crimes - or - hate all gangsta rappers and gangsta rap in general

[Don Seer]

then again most of yall don't seem to like real gangstas neither and you want them locked up

you say criminals like tray deee who won't learn from the past and stay thuggin like that should be locked up in order to protect the rest of society

no.. am saying that groupies shouldnt be saying they should get a pass just because its their favourite rapper.

[W-Side]

it's about this shit in general, not about you, neither about the very details of this tray deee case.. it's not about groupies,

question:

if tray deee is guilty of shooting at people.. do you want him to be locked up or not?

[Nima - Dubcnn.com]

i agree with S N Double O P

[Don Seer]

i'm confused. lol

[Nutty]

Yeep, dude should get locked up for shooting @ ppl.

I kinda see where yer coming from.

For me, it's all about the music man. If a person has lived or is living the words/messages in their songs then they have my respect.

If they're gonna go out there & shoot some1 or take pcp & eat up a chick, then hell yeah........lock them up. Do the crime........do the time.

[CRAFTY]

The majority of the people here on this board like Tray Deee's music, so of course it's kinda hard to say "send him to jail", since we know we won't hear any new music in the near future then.
But, at the same time, you should also leave the thought of "he's one of my favorite rappers" behind and just look at the situation: he shot at people, and it wasn't self-defense...well, that's a crime, period.

Still...I'd rather see him doing community service for about 10 years than seeing him go to jail.

[W-Side]

i'm confused. lol

just answer the question

if tray deee is guilty of shooting at people.. do you want him to be locked up or not?

For me, it's all about the music man. If a lived or is living the words/messages in their songs  then they have my respect.

If they're gonna go out there & shoot some1 or take pcp & eat up a chick, then hell yeah........lock them up. Do the crime........do the time.

lol so what you saying is, you respect the criminals that live what they talk about but you want them locked up.. which basically means if it was up to you then every gangsta rapper that you have respect for would be in prison (I guess you do realize that "go[ing] out there & shoot[ing] some1" = "living the words/messages in their songs")

you wish for the whole respectable part of the gangsta rap industry to be in prison

if this wish was fulfilled gangsta rap (besides the fakes and a few prison releases as we know em from x-raided) would no longer exist

don't you think there's something contradicting to that?

[Don Seer]

i'm confused. lol

just answer the question

if tray deee is guilty of shooting at people.. do you want him to be locked up or not?

you have missed the entire point of my entire argument.

has he shot at anyone? the answer is, we dont know what he has done!.

how can I judge based upon that information?

when...

1. we dont know what he's done.

2. we dont know whether he wants that support. for all you know he's held his hands up and is pleading guilty.

or even..

3.. whether he deserves that support. (see 1)


dont u understand?

[W-Side]

^^dude you can't be serious.. I missed the point? re-read the first post and the title of the thread, combine it with the fact that I said this is NOT specifically about Tray Deee and tell me who misses the point here..

you don't have to be the brightest to realize that we are simply focusing on different issues but it was me who started the thread therefore it's my topic that is to be discussed in it

as you can read I said "If Tray Deee was guilty" so it should be pretty obious that he is replaceable with every other random reallife thug.. once and for all: this is not about tray deee

aight?

now for you and every other confused guy in this thread, Ima formulate the question you gotta ask yourself in a way that doesn't leave any room for misunderstandings:

If a gangsta rapper who talks about gang violence, shooting people, drug dealing and whatsoever in his rhymes does actually live this lifestyle.. do you want him locked up or not?

[I`m Wayne Brady bitch!]

Are you fucking stupid or something ? Of course they should be locked up , what the fuck man . Killing people aint cool

[Don Seer]

now for you and every other confused guy in this thread, Ima formulate the question you gotta ask yourself in a way that doesn't leave any room for misunderstandings:

If a gangsta rapper who talks about gang violence, shooting people, drug dealing and whatsoever in his rhymes does actually live this lifestyle.. do you want him locked up or not?

if caught, yes of course he should be locked up.

easy enough?

what i've been talking about which is people who are fans of them saying they shouldnt -just- because they want an album out of them.

we arent saying we WANT people to be locked up, just that they shouldnt be treated differently from anyone else.

[W-Side]

Are you fucking stupid or something ? Of course they should be locked up , what the fuck man . Killing people aint cool

see, my lil retarded friend, first of all I haven't even said who should be locked up and who not, I simply said you have to decide whether you accept criminals or not and if you don't you obviously can't be really a fan of them

as for my own views I think the environment plays an important role and killing people does not equal killing innocent people, just for the money. I bet alot of you guys would kill somebody if he killed a family member or homies of yours and you had the chance to kill him without getting caught.
a gangsta might rob and sell drugs cuz he never had the opportunity to educate himself n shit but he wouldn't necessarily kill people when doing his crimes.. but in a dangerous biz like that it doesn't take much for beef to start and if the situation is like that he might have to kill somebody in order to not be killed himself, or retaliate for a homie who was killed. Murder is not always the same to me, it all depends on the circumstances

that's why I personally am a fan of gangsta rap and do 'accept' criminal lifestyle cause putting myself in the position many of em are in from the beginning on I can understand why some of em might act like they do

[o g s u e s o n e]

good post.

well i dont really care if tray deee is guilty or not. i like his music and his style. if he wanna shoot somebody then he got his reasons. i dont know why so i dont give a fuck. so 4 me it isnt important if a gangsta rapper is real or not. i enjoy funny or gangbang lyrics & i luv dope gangsta beats. real or not....its about the music.... its entertainment 4 me.

[W-Side]

if caught, yes of course he should be locked up.

easy enough?

what i've been talking about which is people who are fans of them saying they shouldnt -just- because they want an album out of them.

we arent saying we WANT people to be locked up, just that they shouldnt be treated differently from anyone else.

you can't just say "if caught", you have to have an oppinion on whether criminals should necessarily be in prison or not.. even if that's not what you were talkin about in tray deee's case you still gotta have an oppinion

otherwise your understanding of justice is that the lucky ones should not be punished, no matter what they do, and the unlucky ones should be.. (I konw this is how it is, of course, cause you can't catch everybody but I'm talking about what you'd want it to be)


if you say you wish they don't get caught (cause you're a fan) but if they get caught they should be punished then you have the same wierd idea of justice as those who say he should not be punished at all (even if he gets caught), just on a different level