Bob Dylan

[Lincoln]

Any other Bob Dylan fans on this board? Listening to a Bob Dylan record right now, Greatest Hits Vol 2. Found it in my Pop's record collection.

[Diabolical]

I like Bob Dylan. Cant think of my favorite song they are all good.

[West C. Connected]

He spits that hot fiyah.






..Sorry, couldn't resist.

[OpTiCaL]

Got these :


Bob Dylan – Best Of
Bob Dylan – Greatest Hits
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home (Remastered)
Bob Dylan – Live at the Warehouse
Bob Dylan – Biography (3cd


crackin

[Leggy Hendrix]

not a dylan fan, altho i do appreciate what hes done and achieved in music...

[Trauma-san]

^ What he said.

I think most people think it's 'cool' to be a Dylan fan since so many people have cited him as an influence to them before they made it big in music.  He's obviously a great songwriter but I've never really been a fan I couldn't get over how screwed up his voice is.  Some songs I love though, of course, he's got several classics that anybody would like, "Like a  Rolling Stone" , "It Ain't Me, Babe" etc.

[Shallow]

Let's throw away all the influences and significance he's had over the industry and the artform and lets look exclusively at his art. A lot of people hate the voice, I love the voice. I feel it suits the song, most of the time. Now I'm talking about his really early stuff (62-67), he even sang pretty well a little later on Lay Lady Lay, but let's face it there is no confusing him with Bobby Hatfield. However, we're not supposed to. Dylan was beautiful nonetheless, mainly lyrically, but ,vocal range aside, he was also very passionate. When I hear a song about a senselessly murdered black maid who's murderer uses his connections to get off with a 6 month sentence, I don't want to hear vocal ranges or falsettos. Can you imagine Whitney Houston singing that song? It just wouldn't sound right. The song would lack the rugged beauty that only Dylan and a few others could bring to it.

Smile was right when he said that a lot people like him because they think they're supposed to, but there really is something to this man's songs that speak volumes. You said you found vol 2 of his greatest hits. Do yourself a favour and go out and get vol 1, while you're at it look for "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan", "Another Side Of Bob Dylan", and "The Times They Are A-Changin'". There are also tons more. The man was amazing.


I always loved "Don't think twice, It's alright" from Freewheelin'


"I gave her my heart
 but she wanted my soul"

I've never even really had my heart broken by a girl, but listening to Bob sing those words in the song really touched me.


And "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol" almost brought me to tears.

[OpTiCaL]

^^ what about his tribute to the Hurricane...one of those at the time who tried to stand up for pricniples and righteousness



the lyrics of how he told the whole story and his views on it ... legend



ive seen Dylan live with Van Morrison playing after..one of best concerts ever  (plus we could consume hash cakes and spliffs without anyone batting an eyelid lol)

[Diabolical]

Yeah that one is a great song Optical

[Shallow]

^^ what about his tribute to the Hurricane...one of those at the time who tried to stand up for pricniples and righteousness



the lyrics of how he told the whole story and his views on it ... legend



ive seen Dylan live with Van Morrison playing after..one of best concerts ever  (plus we could consume hash cakes and spliffs without anyone batting an eyelid lol)

I was trying to bring up the early stuff. I wouldn't dare talk bad about Hurricane, it's one of my favourite songs. Very powerful.

[Trauma-san]

I dunno, I don't really like overtly political songs, although I of course agree with the sentiment in the song and what he's saying, it just kind of gets so condescending to write a song like that, and then go around playing it, or even listening to it, thinking you're different and better because of it.  I'm sure that's not the case most of the time, but it gives me a 'yuck' feeling when musicians get political.  Yall know i'm conservative, but I don't even like the conservatively tinged songs.  As you can imagine, I can't STAND the liberal ones.  In my opinion, most musicians aren't really very intelligent (lol, that's a way to paintbrush everybody!), and when they open their mouths about politics, usually they sound like idiots. 

The ONLY political thing I've heard anybody say in the last few years that I didn't mind was Britney Spears! LOL.  Somebody asked her about the war in Iraq, and she basically said those are tough decisions, and she's glad she's not president, she'll leave that to him because she doesn't know anything about it.  I can respect an opinion like that.  John Mellencamp acting like Bush is Satan and Mellencamp is going to save the world makes me chuckle.  Even my boy John Lennon, who I love to death, I didn't really feel most of his political stuff. 

[Shallow]

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I see where you're coming from and for the most part agree with you. I hate when I hear stupid musician's talking about things they have absolutely no grasp of, like when Nas rewrites the history of Africa to appease his black pride. Even when people get out of there environment it bothers me. These musicians don't know what goes on over seas, so why pretend to.

However I feel political songs about politics the artist sees are acceptable. Dylan's Hurricane was based on the book, and pretty much takes most of it from there. The point that there is inequality for black males by the system was a valid one, but anyway..... Most of Dylan's political songs try and take role, and he uses his artistic ability to give that role life. Like in Masters of War when he goes off on the monsters that set up these horrid events, and not dare partake in them. He shows us through the eyes of a disgruntled soldier. Dylan had also seen a lot of things on his various runaways across the country and he wrote about them, all the while seeing the meanings and morals behind them.


Another one is Springsteen, yes him again, he writes some what political songs about what he grew up around. He witnessed people lose their jobs and homes due to Reagan and his style of Government. Now Reagan may have done a lot of good for the country, but the bad he did showed up where Bruce grew up. So Bruce took the bad he saw and wrote about, all the while exploring the deeper meanings and morals behind the stories. Bruce would never come out in his songs like rappers, or some punk rockers do and just say "Fuck this, fuck that, Bush sucks. I'm right, everyone else is wrong". He would tell stories, and a lot of times the political nature would be very hidden. Bruce would never go beyond his personal knowledge and claim he knew what he was talking about. This is what more political artists should try and do, put their art before their political opinion.

(sorry if I over did the Bruce stuff)

[Don Jacob]

dylan, now THAT"S  a lyracist y'all. fuck rakim this is the real god and microphone fiend.

[OpTiCaL]

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However I feel political songs about politics the artist sees are acceptable. Dylan's Hurricane was based on the book, and pretty much takes most of it from there. The point that there is inequality for black males by the system was a valid one, but anyway..... Most of Dylan's political songs try and take role, and he uses his artistic ability to give that role life. Like in Masters of War when he goes off on the monsters that set up these horrid events, and not dare partake in them. He shows us through the eyes of a disgruntled soldier. Dylan had also seen a lot of things on his various runaways across the country and he wrote about them, all the while seeing the meanings and morals behind them.

This wasnt a political song to get points...in those times people (anybody) especially the famous if they stood up to society / corruption got themselves in a whole different world, lives became more difficult ...what im trying to say is that there was no free voice for the hurricane...
...dylan (and other artists) helped to try to achieve this and bring the injustice to peoples conscious minds...


...most of us have our own mind...or the ability to make unclouded choices...in these days people tended to believe what was portrayed to a greater extent...


Dylan was never an intentional cool dude...he was just a wrecked hippie...then moved to being a conscious (wrecked ex hippie)


lol


but ya get what i mean