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Why no love for what mobb deep has done in the game
teecee:
Ya, Mobb Deep is definitely a great group, having dropped to arguable classics (Infamous, Hell on Earth), and even though Infamy was pretty wack, they came back with a very good album this time around.
However, to say that most people view them as top 5 or top 3 is not true.......i have rarely heard anyone say that besides Gotti or Jome.............yes, Mobb Deep has made some great music and are still a good group today. However, compare them with Tribe Called Quest, Gangstarr, Public Enemy, Run Dmc, Outkast, Beastie Boys etc and it aint really close .
AS for catalogue, infamy is the only thing that really tarnishes their legacy, but nearly every rapper drops some weak shit like that once in a career
As for impact on the game and originality, they have brought very little. I always liked prodigy ALOT, but to put him top 5 ahead of Big Daddy Kane, Chuck D, Nas, Jay Z (ive finally excepted it), Andre, Kool G Rap, 2pac, Ll Cool J, Scarface etc........basically, prodigy cant even get close to touching anyone of those guys.............and thats just beginning. His subject matter is so limited, and now that his skills arent as sharp as they once were, it really shows.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Tom Gotti on August 12, 2004, 10:28:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 12, 2004, 09:33:12 AM ---Pac must have made a lot of people mad if they (Chino XL, Mobb Deep, Biggie) all released songs about him after he died.
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drop a gem on em leaked on the streets b4 pac died. Never got officially released tho while pac was alive
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I know, I mean to record a song well 'Pac is dead dissing him is just wrong, but to still offically release it is kinda fucked up too. Anyways, I do like there first 2 albums, they are alright, I just gotta get over my Cali biased... lol
Kill:
--- Quote from: teecee on August 12, 2004, 11:58:11 AM ---As for impact on the game and originality, they have brought very little
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that's not true. "The Infamous" and "Survival Of The Fittest" and "Shook Ones Pt. II" did have an impact. That second album along with Illmatic kind of defined the typical Queensbridge style and what would be labeled 'reality rap' and contributed to givin people the idea of what Queensbridge as a hood was/is like that we generally got more than any other album
I agree some people don't give them the credit they deserve. As for the mainstream it is nuthin but logical that the grimey, dark and depressive style they had in most of their songs never appealed to the masses like the party tunes on Doggystyle
Shallow, don't talk about bein grown up and mature lyrics and then come up with NWA. If "Niggaz 4 Life" is sumthin for grown-ups to listen to then any Mobb Deep album is
white Boy:
--- Quote from: teecee on August 12, 2004, 11:58:11 AM ---Mobb Deep has made some great music and are still a good group today. However, compare them with Tribe Called Quest, Gangstarr, Public Enemy, Run Dmc, Outkast, Beastie Boys etc and it aint really close .
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Shallow:
--- Quote from: Kill on August 12, 2004, 12:18:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on August 12, 2004, 11:58:11 AM ---As for impact on the game and originality, they have brought very little
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that's not true. "The Infamous" and "Survival Of The Fittest" and "Shook Ones Pt. II" did have an impact. That second album along with Illmatic kind of defined the typical Queensbridge style and what would be labeled 'reality rap' and contributed to givin people the idea of what Queensbridge as a hood was/is like that we generally got more than any other album
I agree some people don't give them the credit they deserve. As for the mainstream it is nuthin but logical that the grimey, dark and depressive style they had in most of their songs never appealed to the masses like the party tunes on Doggystyle
Shallow, don't talk about bein grown up and mature lyrics and then come up with NWA. If "Niggaz 4 Life" is sumthin for grown-ups to listen to then any Mobb Deep album is
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NWA is comical. You're not supposed to take those guys serious. Everything they did was a joke, intentionally.Mobb Deep want to be taken as serious. Besides I put NWA on my list based on impact. That is undisputable. If Mobb had that kind of impact then I'd add them too.
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