213 officially flopped!!!!

[pappy]

LMFAO,  rap fans dont give a fuck about snoop anymore.  On the east no one thinks anything of him anymore.  On the west he loses fans every day.  Jus look at the board.  A guy like AC Grundy that loves the west cant stand snoop anymore.  This album would of did good when.... 3-4 years ago when there was a shitload of hype for this album.  Snoop rather put out his half assed shit than an album that had potential like 213.

[AlerG]

Lemme get this straight.  Yall are the same mothafuckas that told me Michael Jackson 'only' going double platinum, in 2 months, was a flop, but yet when 213, one of the most anticipated westcoast albums of all time drops, and does 80K, everything's cool. 

that's where you're wrong...you said that after 2 months jackson was double platinum (i'm guessing that's for the invincible album right?) but when his album fell off the charts five months after it's release it had only sold 1.73 million, far from what you stated...i also would consider tha flop considering the pub and time put into that, peace.

[bjax]

who really cares about sales...if you enjoy the album why does it matter how many sell?

It's not like we obsess over it, but it would be nice to see your favourite group do well. 

As for the BEP example, that's more of an exception than the rule.  I would say that a large majority of albums start off with their first week sales being their top sales and steadily decline from there.  I don't see 213 being any different, unless they get a second single that blows up.

[Eddie G.]

First off, the 80k statement is bullshit, the CD hasn't been out for a week, so how can you make that statement?  Also, I don't expect them to move that many units the first week, because they took too damn long to release the video.  Its gonna take a couple more weeks for the video to come into full rotation and then sales will pick up.  also, they could have a huge second single, I would go with "Absolutely" or "Twist Yo Body," if they pick "Another Summer" (because its a Kanye West production) they are dumber than I thought and they will be fucked.  The song is too laid back to be a single, and is also one of the weaker tracks on the album.

[Trauma-san]

Lemme get this straight.  Yall are the same mothafuckas that told me Michael Jackson 'only' going double platinum, in 2 months, was a flop, but yet when 213, one of the most anticipated westcoast albums of all time drops, and does 80K, everything's cool. 

that's where you're wrong...you said that after 2 months jackson was double platinum (i'm guessing that's for the invincible album right?) but when his album fell off the charts five months after it's release it had only sold 1.73 million, far from what you stated...i also would consider tha flop considering the pub and time put into that, peace.

Hmmm.  Check your statistics, I just checked RIAA.com, and Michaels album was certified Platinum @ the beginning of december, then Double Plat, January 25th, 2002.  It was released October 30th, 2001, less than 3 months earlier, making my rough number of 2 months correct.  So....   

that's where YOU'RE wrong, and I'd appreciate an apology not only for your mistake, but for your audacity of accussing me of making a mistake. 

[eS El Duque]

lets go over what you consider a flop, which is rediculous because the album hasn't even been on the charts for a week yet and you are making this statement...for instance:

Black Eyed Peas: Elephunk

Released June 20, 2003
About 32,000 First Week Sales
Took 17 Weeks To Finally Go Gold
Took 8 Months To Finally Go Platinum
Have Been On The Charts For Over 60 Weeks
Never Came In Higher Than 10th On The Charts
Never Sold More Than 55,000 In One Week
Total Sales To Date: 1.93 Million

So, what you would've said the week it was released was it was a flop based on the fact that they only sold 32,000 in their first week, but they are kind of an exception because they hadn't previously blew up and now you can say that they have slowly become double platinum recording artists.
213 is a little different, i agree 80,000 isn't alot for a group with the members that they have, but those numbers aren't final yet. Also, that album is not a flop because the shit is dope. The more i listen to it the more i feel it, peace.

but black eyed PEAS ARE SUPPOSSED TO SUCK NUTZ....213 IS NOT!

Groupie love is a horrible..horrible single.

I pretty much expected 80K, i mean hell, Lloyd Banks didn't have a great single and he sold over 400K? That's a fanbase!

[Smoke]

A bigg flop for the westcoast!!!

For the West Coast? Was it a West Coast reunion album? Fuck it it wasnt even West Coast!! No man. If you wanna call it a bigg flop (i dont care about sales: album sux. Period!), call it a bigg flop for Snoop! Nate and Warren G are still getting paid, so it's all good. But Snoop is pratically the executive producer, the one who choosed the producers, the tracks, the sound, the themes, etc. So it's a bigg flop for him.

[Sikotic™]

Not bad for a below average album if you ask me

[hector]

who cares about the sales.  the album officially flopped music wise.  I didn't expect much from the album, but I really really did expect at least 2, maybe 3 songs that were just straight bangers.  Got nothing close to that.

[[sepehr]]

c'mon its a good album considering how much shit sucks now adays... i mean you couldnt be expecting a classic from them NOW...

[teecee]

so Murda Metal or whatever your lame ass name is, you dont think Absolutely or MLK or Twist ya body are bangers???  Wow, some people are just too picky.  Yes, this album is worse than it should be, but there are definitely some tight ass songs on here, i dont know how peeps can deny that

[hector]

so Murda Metal or whatever your lame ass name is, you dont think Absolutely or MLK or Twist ya body are bangers???  Wow, some people are just too picky.  Yes, this album is worse than it should be, but there are definitely some tight ass songs on here, i dont know how peeps can deny that

nope I don't.  dunno how that is picky.  I just like different music than you.  I don't think there is any tight ass songs on there.

[Smoke]

c'mon its a good album considering how much shit sucks now adays... i mean you couldnt be expecting a classic from them NOW...

No. But i was expecting an album as good as the last Warren G one. And Nate is still hot. It's Snoop who totally fucked it with his stupid producers and his wack rap performances.

[soopadoopaflykid]

I was suprised it even sold that much the first week. For a westcost record they did pretty good cuz who else on the westcoast sold that lately on there first week I think only westside connection this year and thats it. Also if you ever notice how tvt's first single dont ever make it that big but the second one or even the third one is a hit. Give 213 time and they might be able to sale and possibly even go platium

[Eddie G.]

I was suprised it even sold that much the first week. For a westcost record they did pretty good cuz who else on the westcoast sold that lately on there first week I think only westside connection this year and thats it. Also if you ever notice how tvt's first single dont ever make it that big but the second one or even the third one is a hit. Give 213 time and they might be able to sale and possibly even go platium

Thats true.  Look at Ying Yang Twinz last album, first single "Naggin" did very little, and then the second and third singles "Salt Shaker" and "Whats Happinin" blew the fuck up.  Then Lil Jon, first single "I Dont Give A Fuck" did kinda well, then "Get Low" was song of the year.