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Cultures all Equal?
Don Jacob:
^ i agree what happened to the indians was sad but inevitable. If one culture advances and one doesn't guess whose not making the cut.
tommyilromano:
Yeah, but people in here would rather whine about it and talk about how bad America is. Every country, every civilization has blood on its hands.
--- Quote from: Jake La Motta on August 22, 2004, 12:54:23 AM ---^ i agree what happened to the indians was sad but inevitable. If one culture advances and one doesn't guess whose not making the cut.
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mauzip:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 21, 2004, 07:01:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 03:33:53 PM ---
True talk. For the ones that are not with me in this one:
There are many cultures where women do not have equal rights as men and 13 year old girls get babies because in that culture people think you need to get as many children as you can. Therefore men of all ages fuck girls who just had their first period.
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So your saying that doesn't happen in America, right? 13 year old women aren't having sex and having babies in America, is that what your saying?
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In America it is not a cultural thing. When something like this happens in America we are talking about pedophiles, but when something like this happens in say Somalia we're not necessarily talking about pedophiles.
infinite59:
--- Quote from: tommyilromano on August 21, 2004, 09:12:11 PM ---First, I am not American. I am Sicilian/Castilian and this is not about America this is about the shared culture of the West in general and there are parallels. In this world the strong survive. Also it was through Muslim Spain anything was accomplished it was through Roman Catholic Spain and the other Latin European peoples. While it is true Arabic culture was dominant long ago that all came to an end after the Mongols conquered them and changed them forever. Like I said the strong survive and prosper.
If you honestly believe Islam, which is a religion not a culture, would have used Nuclear energy for all good you are mistaken. While there is no way to know for certain since it didn't happen the fundamentalism that goes hand in hand with Islam allows me to make my assumption. Also stop talking about Islam as if it is one unified people it isn't. I currently live in Turkey and I can tell you Turkish Muslims are nothing like those who live in Saudi Arabia or Iran. They are more like western Christians (semi-religious) then the hard-core stock that comes from further south. Also, even the fundis are identical because there is the Shiates and the Sunnis. Islam isn't unified so stop speaking as if it is.
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First let's clear up the misinformation you are spreading about Islam and Islamic history.
Actually, Islam is not a religion in the Western sense of the word. It's not simply a belief but it is a practice, a way of life, a culture. Everything Muslims do from the way they dress and wear their beard, to the way they go to the bathroom and the way they pray and get married, is either written about in the Noble Qu'ran; or it was a practice of the prophet (saws).
Second of all, the Mongols did not put an end to the Islamic empire. Gengis Khan did lay destruction upon Muslims leading all the way to Baghdad, but the succeeding generations of Khan's converted to Islam and actually ended up expanding the Islamic Empire which remained strong all the way until almost the 18th Century, when the gold trade in the West lead to inflation in the East.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Jake La Motta on August 22, 2004, 12:26:10 AM ---you ain't 100% native american M-dogg....if you were you wouldn't be calling yourself native to america and mexico....you try to belittle someone else for being ignorant but your ignorant yourself....if you were a true Native american you would have no mexican roots....if you were a true native mexican you'd be living in southern/central mexico right now and you'd look alot different ....you have ZEREO resemblences to TRUE BLUE native americans and their characteristics....you're just a watered down spanish/aztec mexican llike almost every other hispanic living in america.
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My roots, once again. My grandpa was a straight Aztec, or Mexica as they call themselves. He was 100%, out of the village indian, and he had all the features of someone that was 100% Mexica, or Aztec, whatever you want to call them. My other grandpa, Apache Indian from Arizona, but I don't know him that much, so I don't count his blood. My grandma, well she's mix for Native Mexican and Spanish, like most Mexicans. And my other grandma, she's Southern Piute from California. So enough about my blood. Jake, what are you, and why are you so into putting European culture as superiour. There is no superiour culture. In a war, right now, if Al Quada really wanted a religious war, they can go to the Vatican, which is an independent country, and take them over. I guess that makes Al Quada the superiour culture. THe North Vietnamese won the Vietnam War, they are the superiour culture to the United States and South Vietnam. Afganistan beat the Soviet Union, war does not make a culture. We learn from a European base education, because European countries have won most the wars in world history. Why is that, well Greece to Rome, to England and France and Spain, European countries have taken over the world. That's just part for how history worked. But I refuse to put cultures that spread slavery, that spread war, guns, and genocide as superiour to other cultures that promote peace and deep thought like many eastern cultures seen in Asia. I would say they are different but equal, but never would I say one is better than the other, because we all have different standards. Now lets see what Natives have done since they have gotten here, and before Europeans came.
Native adavancement.
Iroquois: they are the Native nation we modeled our own government. They had a constitution (http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/iroquois.html) and we copied their government which they had a confederecy of states, and one central federal governement.
Aztecs/Mexica: The Aztec were highly advance in math. They invented the number zero. Before European cultures had no concept of nothing, since nothing is really an abstract idea if you think about it. But the Aztecs had the concept of 0 in mathmatics. Also, Aztecs came up with the recall, impeachment idea. When Empiror Motizuma proved to only be working for the European visitors, the people revoluted against Motizuma, practicing a long running tradition in the Aztec Empire to get rid of rulers that don't do the will of the people.
Incas: My god, have you ever seen the buildings the Incas had in the top of the Andes Mountains. The Incas were highly advanced in mathmatics, and built beautiful buildings, and placed them high above the world, using huge stones, it's a great sight. I've only seen it on video when my friend from Peru showed me, but it was amazing, and I hope to see them in person someday.
And the main reason why Natives died off when Europeans came, well lets put it this way, most Natives actually died of disease that was brought because Europeans spend many days out in the sea, and picked up many disease on the way that Natives could not fight off with their immune system. Over 66% of Natives died of disease, not war.
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