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Voting closed: August 30, 2004, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: SMiLE on August 21, 2004, 03:26:43 PMAmerica is obviously a superior culture over others that don't have the freedoms we have, etc. Who do you consider "others".. ??
America is obviously a superior culture over others that don't have the freedoms we have, etc.
Quote from: Jome on August 21, 2004, 06:14:09 PMQuote from: SMiLE on August 21, 2004, 03:26:43 PMAmerica is obviously a superior culture over others that don't have the freedoms we have, etc. Who do you consider "others".. ??You'd just love for me to name names, wouldn't you?
Western accomplishments in science and technology as well as respect for human rights that is expressed in the constitution. American Indians were less accomplished because they didn't build anything as well as didn't invent nothing because before the arrival of the Europeans to America, this land was nothing along with other lands in various parts of the world. They as well as other peoples didn't have a respect for human rights and didn't understand it because it wasn't a part of their world view.
Quote from: tommyilromano on August 20, 2004, 10:19:12 PMWestern accomplishments in science and technology as well as respect for human rights that is expressed in the constitution. American Indians were less accomplished because they didn't build anything as well as didn't invent nothing because before the arrival of the Europeans to America, this land was nothing along with other lands in various parts of the world. They as well as other peoples didn't have a respect for human rights and didn't understand it because it wasn't a part of their world view. Do you have any idea what you are saying, do you know any Native Americans? Do you know Native American culture, or the advancement of Native American culture. White societ discribes the Native American as a unruley savage that was in the way of John Wayne as he fought to push the United States foward. Of course this is all fantasy, but mainly people believe this view of the savage indian in the way of American progress. Let's take a closer look at Native American's shall we, or am I just wasting my time, because as a Native American, both from the United States and Mexico, I feel I should educate the uneducated so that they can understand my culture, and background more. But I feel that my words will fall on deaf ears, or blind eyes, or however you like it.
^ i agree what happened to the indians was sad but inevitable. If one culture advances and one doesn't guess whose not making the cut.
Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 03:33:53 PMTrue talk. For the ones that are not with me in this one:There are many cultures where women do not have equal rights as men and 13 year old girls get babies because in that culture people think you need to get as many children as you can. Therefore men of all ages fuck girls who just had their first period.So your saying that doesn't happen in America, right? 13 year old women aren't having sex and having babies in America, is that what your saying?
True talk. For the ones that are not with me in this one:There are many cultures where women do not have equal rights as men and 13 year old girls get babies because in that culture people think you need to get as many children as you can. Therefore men of all ages fuck girls who just had their first period.
First, I am not American. I am Sicilian/Castilian and this is not about America this is about the shared culture of the West in general and there are parallels. In this world the strong survive. Also it was through Muslim Spain anything was accomplished it was through Roman Catholic Spain and the other Latin European peoples. While it is true Arabic culture was dominant long ago that all came to an end after the Mongols conquered them and changed them forever. Like I said the strong survive and prosper.If you honestly believe Islam, which is a religion not a culture, would have used Nuclear energy for all good you are mistaken. While there is no way to know for certain since it didn't happen the fundamentalism that goes hand in hand with Islam allows me to make my assumption. Also stop talking about Islam as if it is one unified people it isn't. I currently live in Turkey and I can tell you Turkish Muslims are nothing like those who live in Saudi Arabia or Iran. They are more like western Christians (semi-religious) then the hard-core stock that comes from further south. Also, even the fundis are identical because there is the Shiates and the Sunnis. Islam isn't unified so stop speaking as if it is.
you ain't 100% native american M-dogg....if you were you wouldn't be calling yourself native to america and mexico....you try to belittle someone else for being ignorant but your ignorant yourself....if you were a true Native american you would have no mexican roots....if you were a true native mexican you'd be living in southern/central mexico right now and you'd look alot different ....you have ZEREO resemblences to TRUE BLUE native americans and their characteristics....you're just a watered down spanish/aztec mexican llike almost every other hispanic living in america.
This whole arguement is ridiculous and a waste of time. TommyilRamano is right.....western culture in indeed superior to all other cultures. Capitalism, freedom of speech, separation of church and state, democracy, science, human rights etc are all the foundation of western civilization and the pinnacle of human achievement.That is why multiculturalism is a joke.....we have to pretend that foreign, backwards cultures are somehow just as relevant and important. Well there are not.
Quote from: tommyilromano on August 21, 2004, 09:12:11 PMFirst, I am not American. I am Sicilian/Castilian and this is not about America this is about the shared culture of the West in general and there are parallels. In this world the strong survive. Also it was through Muslim Spain anything was accomplished it was through Roman Catholic Spain and the other Latin European peoples. While it is true Arabic culture was dominant long ago that all came to an end after the Mongols conquered them and changed them forever. Like I said the strong survive and prosper.If you honestly believe Islam, which is a religion not a culture, would have used Nuclear energy for all good you are mistaken. While there is no way to know for certain since it didn't happen the fundamentalism that goes hand in hand with Islam allows me to make my assumption. Also stop talking about Islam as if it is one unified people it isn't. I currently live in Turkey and I can tell you Turkish Muslims are nothing like those who live in Saudi Arabia or Iran. They are more like western Christians (semi-religious) then the hard-core stock that comes from further south. Also, even the fundis are identical because there is the Shiates and the Sunnis. Islam isn't unified so stop speaking as if it is.First let's clear up the misinformation you are spreading about Islam and Islamic history. Actually, Islam is not a religion in the Western sense of the word. It's not simply a belief but it is a practice, a way of life, a culture. Everything Muslims do from the way they dress and wear their beard, to the way they go to the bathroom and the way they pray and get married, is either written about in the Noble Qu'ran; or it was a practice of the prophet (saws).Second of all, the Mongols did not put an end to the Islamic empire. Gengis Khan did lay destruction upon Muslims leading all the way to Baghdad, but the succeeding generations of Khan's converted to Islam and actually ended up expanding the Islamic Empire which remained strong all the way until almost the 18th Century, when the gold trade in the West lead to inflation in the East.
My roots, once again. My grandpa was a straight Aztec, or Mexica as they call themselves. He was 100%, out of the village indian, and he had all the features of someone that was 100% Mexica, or Aztec, whatever you want to call them. My other grandpa, Apache Indian from Arizona, but I don't know him that much, so I don't count his blood. My grandma, well she's mix for Native Mexican and Spanish, like most Mexicans. And my other grandma, she's Southern Piute from California.
Native adavancement.Iroquois: they are the Native nation we modeled our own government. They had a constitution (http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/iroquois.html) and we copied their government which they had a confederecy of states, and one central federal governement.Aztecs/Mexica: The Aztec were highly advance in math. They invented the number zero. Before European cultures had no concept of nothing, since nothing is really an abstract idea if you think about it. But the Aztecs had the concept of 0 in mathmatics. Also, Aztecs came up with the recall, impeachment idea. When Empiror Motizuma proved to only be working for the European visitors, the people revoluted against Motizuma, practicing a long running tradition in the Aztec Empire to get rid of rulers that don't do the will of the people.Incas: My god, have you ever seen the buildings the Incas had in the top of the Andes Mountains. The Incas were highly advanced in mathmatics, and built beautiful buildings, and placed them high above the world, using huge stones, it's a great sight. I've only seen it on video when my friend from Peru showed me, but it was amazing, and I hope to see them in person someday.And the main reason why Natives died off when Europeans came, well lets put it this way, most Natives actually died of disease that was brought because Europeans spend many days out in the sea, and picked up many disease on the way that Natives could not fight off with their immune system. Over 66% of Natives died of disease, not war.