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Where's the democracy in Afganistan and Iraq?
infinite59:
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--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 21, 2004, 03:22:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 03:14:54 PM ---You need to read a little bit less selective. I said this man wants to become that, yes.
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No. You didn't say that. You said, "Who said he's a dead man?". Which obviously implies that you don't think that he is going to die soon.
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Wrong.
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So then you do think that he's a dead man. And Sadr has publicly said that he knows he is a dead man. And he has repeatedly put himself in harms way and been inches from death and been shot at. So then now you must know he is not doing it for power! Thank you for completing my argument.
mauzip:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 21, 2004, 03:36:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 03:34:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 21, 2004, 03:22:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 03:14:54 PM ---You need to read a little bit less selective. I said this man wants to become that, yes.
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No. You didn't say that. You said, "Who said he's a dead man?". Which obviously implies that you don't think that he is going to die soon.
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Wrong.
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So then you do think that he's a dead man. And Sadr has publicly said that he knows he is a dead man. And he has repeatedly put himself in harms way and been inches from death and been shot at. So then now you must know he is not doing it for power! Thank you for completing my argument.
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Why don't you go ask some elementary schools if you can take reading classes. Maybe one of em will allow you to.
Montana00:
Dont talk smack about al-sadr, he may infact become the new leader of iraq when us troops pull out. ;D
I disagree with "How can we promote democracy, if we dont even have it."
1) Just because most of our population doesnt vote, doesnt mean we dont have democracy.
2) Democracy doesnt work by "Popular Vote", our leaders are elected by the electoral college
Im not taking a side on if iraq should have a democracy or what not, but the fact remains setting up a stable government in their country is going to take years. There country still has to get through car bombs everday, before they can set up a government.
Don Rizzle:
the car bombs are party due to american occupation but also due to the american puppet goverment which the population has no faith in. the president worked with the cia, he also blew up a school bus full of children when saddam was still in power.
the thing with sadr he came to power by murdering the previous cleric so should be arrested but he has been offered into to the political fold but he knows giving up arms will lose his support so pretty irrelivant and is stuck in an movable position.
basically i see iraq as a big mess we can't leave now after we fucked everything up for them but also we can do to little help with them progress into an independent nation there is too much resentment of occupying forces and internal power stuggles. i think the UN needs to take a much more central role paid for by america but not influenced by america. once some kind of legitimate government can be installed iraq will become more stable it won't work the other way round.
infinite59:
--- Quote from: rampant on August 21, 2004, 04:26:33 PM ---Dont talk smack about al-sadr, he may infact become the new leader of iraq when us troops pull out. ;D
I disagree with "How can we promote democracy, if we dont even have it."
1) Just because most of our population doesnt vote, doesnt mean we dont have democracy.
2) Democracy doesnt work by "Popular Vote", our leaders are elected by the electoral college
Im not taking a side on if iraq should have a democracy or what not, but the fact remains setting up a stable government in their country is going to take years. There country still has to get through car bombs everday, before they can set up a government.
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Wrong. Bush also lost the electoral vote. His whole presidency is a fraud. The election was fixed. This has been proven that votes were thrown out that would have made Gore the winner.
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