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Eminem's Album Release Date!!!
Shallow:
Well vh1 has a show called Ultimate Albums and it had one episode based entirely around the MMLP. Whether any of you care for the opinions of vh1 is irrelevent. The fact remains that a national cable channel has dubbed it a classic and it is considred by at least the 17 million people that bought it world wide a classic. I'm not talking about the underground rap scene that hails shit albums from Canibus as classics. I'm talking about publications like Rollingstone magazine. So what if they're white guys writing the reviews? Eminem's white, and I bet so are most of the people on this forum.
What I think of the album is irrelevent, and classic is a subjective term, but when it's all said and done 50 years from now I believe Eminem will at least be remebered, and rembered for contraversial lyrics and classic albums. Personally I don't play it much anymore, but I also haven't listened to Doggiestyle or Chronic in literally years.
Personally I feel both of the previous two Eminem albums were better than Ready To Die, Me Agaist the World, Hell On Earth, 36 Chambers, and 2001. Those albums are considred by many to be classics. However, once again my opinion is meaningless. All I was trying to imply is that I believe (because I haven't tried it) if you were to go to a music store and ask if they considered MMLP or Eminem Show classics, that the majority would say yes.
white Boy:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 11:26:49 AM ---Well vh1 has a show called Ultimate Albums and it had one episode based entirely around the MMLP. Whether any of you care for the opinions of vh1 is irrelevent. The fact remains that a national cable channel has dubbed it a classic and it is considred by at least the 17 million people that bought it world wide a classic. I'm not talking about the underground rap scene that hails shit albums from Canibus as classics. I'm talking about publications like Rollingstone magazine. So what if they're white guys writing the reviews? Eminem's white, and I bet so are most of the people on this forum.
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vh1's opinion doesnt count.. they have probably never heard 80% of rap's REAL classics... like illmatic, 36 chambers, etc. that goes for all those rollingstones guys too
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 11:26:49 AM ---Personally I feel both of the previous two Eminem albums were better than Ready To Die, Me Agaist the World, Hell On Earth, 36 Chambers, and 2001.
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:o
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 11:26:49 AM ---All I was trying to imply is that I believe (because I haven't tried it) if you were to go to a music store and ask if they considered MMLP or Eminem Show classics, that the majority would say yes.
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no.. were do u get that number, if u go to a hip hop record store, were people acutally know their rap and hip hop.. they will say eminem's album is good, but not a classic...
Shallow:
Yeah but any hard core fan of music hates on successess. Go to a hard core Rock and Roll fan from the 70s and early 80s and ask them about Michael Jackson. They'll tell you he sucks, and sucks huge. Michael Jackson is rock n roll.
It isn't the thing to do to say Eminem makes classics. To be honest most hip hop artists hardly know what an album is. Go to some undergrong hip hop store and tell them Snoop's Doggiestyle better than anything by Common, or Mos Def, and they'll probably denounce DG as nothing more than an easy listen. Rollingstone magazine is a group of very knowledgable music fans. Some times politics come into play, but they do know what they're talking about.
I don't care if you think vh1 counts or not. The bottom line is it's the albums that break away from the hard core audience and make it big that become classics. Ask any hard core Wrestling fan how good a wrestler Hulk Hogan was in his prime and they'll tell you he was shit, but any wrestling journalist has to place him in the top 5 because of his impact, and impact adds to the term classic.
LyRiCaL_G:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 10:41:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: smartass on September 06, 2004, 08:35:19 AM ---eminem will never make a classic album. sslp will always be his best.
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He'll never make a classic album to you, but to the general music public MMLP and Eminem Show are both considred classics. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not a classic. I don't care much for Thriller, outside of a couple singles, but I would never deny that it's a classic.
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bullshit, mmlp was his closest to a classic in most cats eyes.........eminem show was never considered anywhere near a classic......if u talkin about general people like 14 yr old white kids on some nice clean street then maybe, but where it counts in hiphop.......its a known fact eminem aint hit a classic yet..........all three albums got props.......but eminem show was considered kinda weak..........which i agree, within hiphop he got more props for the 8mile cd than for his 3rd solo......and i can see why.............and smartcat is on point.....eminem to date has not made a cd which niggaz within hiphop ranks would consider classic.......tho sslp got some fire and mmlp was pretty sick all the way......eminem show was annoying more than anything after mmlp....
pz
LyRiCaL_G:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 11:26:49 AM ---Whether Personally I feel both of the previous two Eminem albums were better than Ready To Die, Me Agaist the World, Hell On Earth, 36 Chambers, and 2001. Those albums are considred by many to be classics.
^^these eminem groupies need to go.......man whether u dig the album more than those is one thing but to claim its better its both a groupie statement and bullshit........
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