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Hip Hop community speaks out against new sampling laws
Shallow:
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I don't mean to say that it takes no skill what so ever, but I still think it takes the least skill. Put it this way, I think the best artists in all the other sections of rock n roll, are more creative and musical than the best in hip hop.
M Dogg™:
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I don't mean to say that it takes no skill what so ever, but I still think it takes the least skill. Put it this way, I think the best artists in all the other sections of rock n roll, are more creative and musical than the best in hip hop.
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I don't think so. I mean, in hip hop, you have a producer, taking other music, and recreating it. In rock music, you have people that play instruments, and that's it. You have a drum man that does his drums, you have the bass, a guitar, keyboards, and all types of other sounds. But you are not having your drummer doing a guitar solo. In hip-hop, they by-pass the instruments, and one person creates the sound. In rock, you have a music writer to do it all, and them the players play what they are told. I will give whoever writes the music lots of credit, but at the same time, I will give a hip-hop producer credit for putting together sounds to make music. And you have to remember, not everything in a rap song is sampled anymore. At one time, yes, but now a days, producers are adding more original sounds to the beats. But I will get mad the day sampling of voices is no longer there. There is nothing like hearing Premo, or Kanye, or most producers, sample some old school shit, mix it into the song and make the song that much more powerful.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 01, 2004, 09:04:49 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't mean to say that it takes no skill what so ever, but I still think it takes the least skill. Put it this way, I think the best artists in all the other sections of rock n roll, are more creative and musical than the best in hip hop.
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That's your opinion... :D
On The Edge of Insanity:
I'm with Sccit on this one, sampling does take a lot of skill to do it properly, i.e. chopping samples up, fitting them wit drums, bass, etc. Compared to actually playing instruments I wouldn't know, but as far as I'm concerned to sample you have to understand how music sounds, in order to match up the correct elements within a track. You can tell the difference between a good and bad producer by how well the different elements of a beat match one another, and that is all down to the skill in picking the correct samples to fit one another and chopping them up correctly.
You do get some producers nowadays who just take a four bar loop from an old soul track, speed it up, and then add drums and bass (no names mentioned), which admittably probably doesn't take that much skill or creativity, but there are so many others who take samples from such a wide variation of music styles and put them together to make cohesive tracks, to say that there is little skill in the process would be stupid.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Yes...There are producers out there who cut loops from five different songs, tweak them, and fuse them together to make one incredible beat...That takes a lot of skill, and is beyond creative, if you ask me...It's not how you people picture it...Sure there are producers who take advantage, and straight out rip shit off. But there are also producers who use the art of sampling to create extremely dope, creative, and skillful music...PeACe
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