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You Can Kiss KRS-1's Career Goodbye
W-Side:
--- Quote from: Twang on October 16, 2004, 03:35:39 PM ---You can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...
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you just don't get the point. He didn't say HE was happy that it happened. WHen he talked about "we were cheering" he's refering to the hiphop community looking at the companies in the building. Not the people but the companies. That point of view is simply not considering that people were in that building that's why it is an unacceptable point of view on the WHOLE tragedy, including all the people that lost their lives and he says that himself. Simply saying you cheered when something happened that peeps lost their lifes over is "crazy" as he put it himself.
I'd only be repeatin what I wrote before so ima just quote
--- Quote ---NOT saying they[the people] don't matter, they're simply not part of this point of view. (e.g., if it's your job to estimate the costs caused by an accident you don't need to consider how many people died in it cause it's not your job at the time. That doesn't mean you don't care about these people)
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from his point of view as a person he found the attacks to be as terrible as everybody else thought they were
"I was just as saddened as everyone else on 911."
"of course a lot of our friends and family were lost there as well"
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: L2DB on October 17, 2004, 04:32:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Twang on October 16, 2004, 03:35:39 PM ---You can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...
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you just don't get the point. He didn't say HE was happy that it happened. WHen he talked about "we were cheering" he's refering to the hiphop community looking at the companies in the building. Not the people but the companies. That point of view is simply not considering that people were in that building that's why it is an unacceptable point of view on the WHOLE tragedy, including all the people that lost their lives and he says that himself. Simply saying you cheered when something happened that peeps lost their lifes over is "crazy" as he put it himself.
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YOU CANT GO AROUND SAYING CONTRAVERSIAL SHIT, THEN TRY AND EXPLAIN IT AWAY. He could have just said
"Well, I'm not concerned about the companies that were in the building, I think many of them were racist." or something. Why say "I CHEERED" fuck him, fuck his, fuck you, fuck whoever cheered. You're all a bunch of pricks for that. There's no explaining away an asshole's remarks.
W-Side:
--- Quote from: Trauma on October 18, 2004, 10:00:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: L2DB on October 17, 2004, 04:32:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Twang on October 16, 2004, 03:35:39 PM ---You can't go around and say "I fuck dead bodies"....... and then say "No, that was taken out of context, let me explain what I mean when I say I fuck dead bodies". You can't say "I want to murder my wife" and then say "no, I was surprised to read the paper and find that I said I wanted to murder my wife. What I really meant was"...
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you just don't get the point. He didn't say HE was happy that it happened. WHen he talked about "we were cheering" he's refering to the hiphop community looking at the companies in the building. Not the people but the companies. That point of view is simply not considering that people were in that building that's why it is an unacceptable point of view on the WHOLE tragedy, including all the people that lost their lives and he says that himself. Simply saying you cheered when something happened that peeps lost their lifes over is "crazy" as he put it himself.
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YOU CANT GO AROUND SAYING CONTRAVERSIAL SHIT, THEN TRY AND EXPLAIN IT AWAY. He could have just said
"Well, I'm not concerned about the companies that were in the building, I think many of them were racist." or something. Why say "I CHEERED" fuck him, fuck his, fuck you, fuck whoever cheered. You're all a bunch of pricks for that. There's no explaining away an asshole's remarks.
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You can't go around saying fuck somebody when you're not only too retarded to get what he really meant but actually too ignorant to even read it.
And yet again you prove your considerable lack of intelligence and text comprehension when you imply that I said I cheered. KRS cheered for the reason that he thinks it's damaging the companies he's talking about, I don't think it has any effect on their power and the way they controle the hiphop industry so I didn't cheer from that point of view, I simply didn't give a fuck. Repetition of the previously written for the simple-minded: Whether you cheered, cried or laughed your ass off from that point of view does not express your feelings to towards the attacks in general. All it does express is your feelings towards the companies in the building and your estimation of what effect the attacks have on these companies. The people in the building don't have a single thing to do with that point of view. KRS thought the attacks would damage the companies in the building so from that point of view he cheered because from that point of view no people were in the building so there's no reason to be said. Now the fact of the matter is there were people in it so the attacks as a whole with all their consequences are in KRS' oppinion horrible and nothing to be glad about.
All he did is express a seperated point of view on ONE aspect of the attacks (the business aspect). That doesn' take ANYTHING away from the fact that he is as said as everybody else that 911 happened cause people did die.
If a bomb kills a whole lotta people including
1.a tyran who controlled the whole country and
2.your parents
You are sad and wish it wouldn't have happened, yet, thinking about the political aspect only you do cheer at the fact that the country's now free.
Now if you were asked about your political opinion on what happened you could say "I cheered when the tyran's oppression was blown away" even if you actually cried when it happened cause your parents and other peeps died. It doesn't mean you literally cheered, it only means you would have cheered if that was the only effect of what happened and since you currently speak about the political aspect only, you also express your reaction to the political aspect only. Your reaction to the end of the tyran's oppression = cheering.
And that is exactly what KRS did
"My intent is never to demean or disrespect anyone's loss or gain; and of course I did not literally "cheer when 911 happened". I made an objective statement about the feelings of those who were oppressed by world trade policies. I was just as saddened as everyone else on 911. "
You might call KRS a fool for saying it in a way that's easy to interpretate wrongly, especially whithout the context BUT you can not call him fucked up for having that opinion cause there is NOTHING wrong or even offensive about the opinion.
Gangstauu:
He's trying to change the story cuz he's afraid to get killed
FUck anyone who believes he didnt say it
FUCk KRs-One even harder
pz
W-Side:
--- Quote from: Gangstauu on October 22, 2004, 03:01:40 AM ---He's trying to change the story cuz he's afraid to get killed
FUck anyone who believes he didnt say it
FUCk KRs-One even harder
pz
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lol are you slow ? he never said he didn't say it, it's just nothing wrong with the way he said it, I explained it in the post right above yours so it shouldn't be that hard
oh well.. :
--- Quote ---All he did is express a seperated point of view on ONE aspect of the attacks (the business aspect). That doesn' take ANYTHING away from the fact that he is as said as everybody else that 911 happened cause people did die.
If a bomb kills a whole lotta people including
1.a tyran who controlled the whole country and
2.your parents
You are sad and wish it wouldn't have happened, yet, thinking about the political aspect only you do cheer at the fact that the country's now free.
Now if you were asked about your political opinion on what happened you could say "I cheered when the tyran's oppression was blown away" even if you actually cried when it happened cause your parents and other peeps died. It doesn't mean you literally cheered, it only means you would have cheered if that was the only effect of what happened and since you currently speak about the political aspect only, you also express your reaction to the political aspect only. Your reaction to the end of the tyran's oppression = cheering.
And that is exactly what KRS did
"My intent is never to demean or disrespect anyone's loss or gain; and of course I did not literally "cheer when 911 happened". I made an objective statement about the feelings of those who were oppressed by world trade policies. I was just as saddened as everyone else on 911. "
You might call KRS a fool for saying it in a way that's easy to interpretate wrongly, especially whithout the context BUT you can not call him fucked up for having that opinion cause there is NOTHING wrong or even offensive about the opinion.
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