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this guy says tupac, jay z, are the most overrated rappers ever. Agree?
smartass:
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--- Quote from: Reezy on November 25, 2004, 03:38:27 PM ---nerd rap bullshit? ya okay your the one writing paragraphs and seems obsessed with the guy. feeling you have to defend jay with your life and posting his lyrics from only a couple songs. big deal, his delivery and voice are horrible and if u knew anything you would know he struggles with riding beats. he was tryin to find his identity back then and now finally found copin kanes style works for him. dude is overrated because of people like u who think so highly of him, quite sad. "Eminem, Slug and Canibus are all better than Jay" is true...im not gonna find any lyrics like u bcuz i personally dont care that much about the guy, hes overrated. only ppl who do that is "nerd rap bullshit" type cats like your self
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lol @ jay "copying" kane when he was mentored by him and jaz-o. i guess big l copied lord finesse too, huh? the thing i really find funny is how you talk about jay "not being able to ride a beat" aka flow, and then you got ras kass in your sig. irony at its finest. when him, slug, or canibus can put out an album universally accepted as a good album, come holla at me. cause jay already has 2.
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What do you mean by universally accepted? I'll give you Canibus, I haven't heard enough Slug, but Eminem Show, MMLP, and SSLP are pretty accepted. They all got rather good reviews from every type of review I've read. I'm not saying you're wrong but can you show that any of Em's first 3 albums were not accepted?
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by universally accepted i mean the mainstream, underground, and critic reviews. eminem has good albums, thats why i didnt mention him. i said him(ras kass), slug and canibus.
Sikotic™:
Jay Z: yes
Pac: no
Glendale:
when him, slug, or canibus can put out an album universally accepted as a good album, come holla at me. cause jay already has 2.
they probably could if they were signed to a major, had promotion like jay through mags, tv, interviews, clothing lines, etc...their independant and the world isnt ready for them. they prefer weak shit like chingy, nelly, j-kwon, and jayz. em can even fit in with them at times, nas stays real. make any of those 3 a hot beat like the ones jay gets and see how they ride it with a lot more meaning full and lyrical content compared to your beloved jay. slug did good on Modern Mans Hustle which i thought sounded a lil commercial. but unfortuanly he cant get beats like that all the time or have the equipemtn/producers who can. until then, they wont put an album universally accepted bcuz of all that and i can deal with it. being accepted by 12 yr olds and sales obviously matter to u, good for u. to me, jay is like the dumb commercial version of immortal technique, both cant ride beats. list as many songs as u want, call me when he can do it through a whole album.
7even:
when I say Slug and Canibus are better than Jay, Im not talking about Albums.
comparing them by Albums is, frankly said, misunderstanding
Jay-Z obviously has better studios, better production, better beats, better guest appearances, more budget, and what not.
No shit his albums have a better sound universally speaking.
technically though, bis and slug are better rappers. I'd also put Poet Laureate II over any Jay-Z song and Godlovesugly over any Jay-Z Album, but that's probably just my personal preferation.
by the underground, however, Ras Kass is severly overrated btw.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: smartass on November 25, 2004, 06:26:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 25, 2004, 05:44:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: smartass on November 25, 2004, 04:57:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Reezy on November 25, 2004, 03:38:27 PM ---nerd rap bullshit? ya okay your the one writing paragraphs and seems obsessed with the guy. feeling you have to defend jay with your life and posting his lyrics from only a couple songs. big deal, his delivery and voice are horrible and if u knew anything you would know he struggles with riding beats. he was tryin to find his identity back then and now finally found copin kanes style works for him. dude is overrated because of people like u who think so highly of him, quite sad. "Eminem, Slug and Canibus are all better than Jay" is true...im not gonna find any lyrics like u bcuz i personally dont care that much about the guy, hes overrated. only ppl who do that is "nerd rap bullshit" type cats like your self
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lol @ jay "copying" kane when he was mentored by him and jaz-o. i guess big l copied lord finesse too, huh? the thing i really find funny is how you talk about jay "not being able to ride a beat" aka flow, and then you got ras kass in your sig. irony at its finest. when him, slug, or canibus can put out an album universally accepted as a good album, come holla at me. cause jay already has 2.
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What do you mean by universally accepted? I'll give you Canibus, I haven't heard enough Slug, but Eminem Show, MMLP, and SSLP are pretty accepted. They all got rather good reviews from every type of review I've read. I'm not saying you're wrong but can you show that any of Em's first 3 albums were not accepted?
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by universally accepted i mean the mainstream, underground, and critic reviews. eminem has good albums, thats why i didnt mention him. i said him(ras kass), slug and canibus.
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Yeah, I can agree with that. Since the other guy mention Em, Canibus, and Slug in succession, I thought you meant Em when you said "him". My mistake.
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