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this guy says tupac, jay z, are the most overrated rappers ever. Agree?

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ImmortalOne:

--- Quote from: Shallow on November 23, 2004, 11:46:46 AM ---I could never say Pac was overrated. He was the best all round package in the history of rap music. His lyrics were more poetic than most and just as good as any of the other best rappers. His delivery was so versatile. He knew what type of emotion the song required, and he knew how to display that emotion better than anybody. He could do angry, sad, excited, cocky, and serious. Kind of like Elvis in that regard, if he were to touch a song everybody else better leave it alone. I think of Nas's "Dance" from God's Son, and can only imagine how much better it would have sounded if Pac recorded it. His flow was musical and fluid all the time. He may have been hypocritical or acted stupid sometimes but that shouldn't affect his merit as an artist. We aren't judging Tupac the human being, we are judging Tupac the artist. I'll never understand what people mean when they say he wasn't good lyrically. I'd compare some of his best work to early Springsteen lyrics, well above 90% of hip hop 90% of the time, and never below it.

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I couldnt have said it better myself. Pac isnt overrated, he is just simply THAT good.....he was on a level that no other hip hop artist has or ever will reach. IMO, he is the only hip hop artist that is worthy of being called an icon. Whether you like his music or not is irrelevent. He is simply the embodiment of hip hop and the biggest and most influential figure to arise from it. By far the most charismatic, versatile, and complete MC ever. You can try and say he is overrated all you want, but fact of the matter is that he's the standard by which all MC's today are judged by, and the one every living MC wants to be. There's a reason he is quoted and sampled more than any other MC right now, because he was THAT good. Thing about Pac was, he was more than just a rapper: he was a poet, revoluationary, and to many, a prophet. At the very least, he is a legend and the voice for an entire generation. I dont care if im dickriding or not, im just telling it like it is. Dude was/is in a class of his own.

Jay Z, on the otherhand, is EXTREMELY overrated......as is Eminem. Neither of these cats are even worthy of shining Pac's boots.

Elevz:
Well, well... I never really liked Jay-Z anyway so imo he's EXTREMELY overrated... And as for Pac - yeah he was skilled... Highly skilled. One of the best in the game, but nowadays people seem to act like he's God himself. He deserves respect, but stop riding his dick. I wonder if Pac would have fallen off before 2004 if he weren't dead already.

Ras Kass' Toothpick:

--- Quote from: Hellrazor on November 28, 2004, 01:11:14 AM ---I couldnt have said it better myself. Pac isnt overrated, he is just simply THAT good.....he was on a level that no other hip hop artist has or ever will reach. IMO, he is the only hip hop artist that is worthy of being called an icon. Whether you like his music or not is irrelevent. He is simply the embodiment of hip hop and the biggest and most influential figure to arise from it. By far the most charismatic, versatile, and complete MC ever. You can try and say he is overrated all you want, but fact of the matter is that he's the standard by which all MC's today are judged by, and the one every living MC wants to be. There's a reason he is quoted and sampled more than any other MC right now, because he was THAT good. Thing about Pac was, he was more than just a rapper: he was a poet, revoluationary, and to many, a prophet. At the very least, he is a legend and the voice for an entire generation. I dont care if im dickriding or not, im just telling it like it is. Dude was/is in a class of his own.

Jay Z, on the otherhand, is EXTREMELY overrated......as is Eminem. Neither of these cats are even worthy of shining Pac's boots.
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I don't call too many people here dickriders but you are the perfect example.

ImmortalOne:

--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on November 28, 2004, 08:00:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Hellrazor on November 28, 2004, 01:11:14 AM ---I couldnt have said it better myself. Pac isnt overrated, he is just simply THAT good.....he was on a level that no other hip hop artist has or ever will reach. IMO, he is the only hip hop artist that is worthy of being called an icon. Whether you like his music or not is irrelevent. He is simply the embodiment of hip hop and the biggest and most influential figure to arise from it. By far the most charismatic, versatile, and complete MC ever. You can try and say he is overrated all you want, but fact of the matter is that he's the standard by which all MC's today are judged by, and the one every living MC wants to be. There's a reason he is quoted and sampled more than any other MC right now, because he was THAT good. Thing about Pac was, he was more than just a rapper: he was a poet, revoluationary, and to many, a prophet. At the very least, he is a legend and the voice for an entire generation. I dont care if im dickriding or not, im just telling it like it is. Dude was/is in a class of his own.

Jay Z, on the otherhand, is EXTREMELY overrated......as is Eminem. Neither of these cats are even worthy of shining Pac's boots.
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I don't call too many people here dickriders but you are the perfect example.

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No, you are a far bigger dickrider than I am, since YOU cant get off MY dick....following me around threads and shit. Fuck up outta here kid.

And I could care less of what you think about me, insignifigant one. Acting like im gonna change my opinions or some shit just because you happen to not like them. As said in the other thread, go fuck yourself...after you kindly remove yourself from my nuts.

Ras Kass' Toothpick:

--- Quote from: Hellrazor on November 28, 2004, 05:52:05 PM ---No, you are a far bigger dickrider than I am, since YOU cant get off MY dick....following me around threads and shit. Fuck up outta here kid.
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Responding to two of your posts hardly qualifies as "following you around".


--- Quote from: Hellrazor on November 28, 2004, 05:52:05 PM ---And I could care less of what you think about me, insignifigant one. Acting like im gonna change my opinions or some shit just because you happen to not like them. As said in the other thread, go fuck yourself...after you kindly remove yourself from my nuts.
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