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Drudge:

--- Quote ---Tiger Woods is what he is, half black, half Thai. He's not from the ghetto and has no ties to it. He doesn't owe a goddman thing to anyone in it. If he wants to give back then that's great, but if he doesn't than we have no right to insult him. Why should Tiger publicly call himself black or African when half of his entire family tree is Thai. Are the Thai making a big fuss about him not giving back to them. Let me assure you the poor Thai kid in Thailand lives a lot worse than the poor black in America. So what if high profile jobs aren't available, or if College is difficult to get into or pay for, or if a taxi doesn't stop? You think some kid in Thailand who's 4 and 5 years old being pimped out to a pedophile by the child sex industry that plagues that and other countries in the area gives a shit about not being able to get a cab? They'd trade places with any ghetto kid from Queensbridge in a second.
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 ;) Couldn't have said it better.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Juronimo on January 12, 2005, 11:17:58 AM ---I already stated my opinions on Coon Picnic on another thread. Like I stated earlier, Nas's beefs with those people he mentioned has nothing to do with them having white wives, it's the way they behave, they way they carry themselves. The issues that Nas speaks upon are issues that have been talked about and have been geniune issues in the black community for decades. It's easy for one to criticize when one is not familiar with the dynamics he's discussing. The best they can do is to dissect a factual error or a contradiction or two, instead of discussing the real issues, since those that are the most vocal in criticizing Nas, especially on this board have little to no knowledge on issues affecting the black community.

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So do you feel like your race is being hurt by Cuba Gooding celebrating an Oscar win, or that Tiger Woods acts a certain way? Do you think it's right to put these guys down for not being Jim Brown? That's my only issue here. Someone putting down someone else's integrity. It's different when Em does it in his jokes, because no one is confusing him for being smart. This has nothing to do with black people for me. It's all about reason, logic, and morality. If it were Timberlake tearing down his fellow whites in ingnorant ways I'd take the same stand.

You can hide behind your "I'm black, your not. I understand, you can't"  persona all you want, but the fact remains that an ignorant hate filled human being is insulting people for no reason. What would you like Tiger to do? Jim Brown said all this shit in the media, did that change the state of blacks in the Ghettos? Was there less crime and poverty. Nas is complaining for nothing. Like those people that complain about Mel Gibson not giving away all the money he made from Passion. Mel could give away all the 300 million and make no significant difference in the world. It's his money and his mind and what he wants to do is up to him. He isn't hurting anyone by being rich so I let it go. Tiger isn't hurting anyone by being Tiger, so I let him go. (Tiger still gives more back to black kids than Nas does).

BacktoWacko:
hey peeps I dont understand how ya'll react on nas.... wats up  I thought em said some shit about black women... too ( OK HE said sorry but whats said is whats said) or am I just trippin....

Dont call me a racist.. Cuz me Role with whiteboys and white chicks too... and nobody of them is saying shit of nass... same as me not saying shit about em.. infact I listen to em and they listen to nas too...


NAS - Street Disciple is DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by the way...

Juronimo:

--- Quote from: Shallow on January 12, 2005, 11:37:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Juronimo on January 12, 2005, 11:17:58 AM ---I already stated my opinions on Coon Picnic on another thread. Like I stated earlier, Nas's beefs with those people he mentioned has nothing to do with them having white wives, it's the way they behave, they way they carry themselves. The issues that Nas speaks upon are issues that have been talked about and have been geniune issues in the black community for decades. It's easy for one to criticize when one is not familiar with the dynamics he's discussing. The best they can do is to dissect a factual error or a contradiction or two, instead of discussing the real issues, since those that are the most vocal in criticizing Nas, especially on this board have little to no knowledge on issues affecting the black community.

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So do you feel like your race is being hurt by Cuba Gooding celebrating an Oscar win, or that Tiger Woods acts a certain way? Do you think it's right to put these guys down for not being Jim Brown? That's my only issue here. Someone putting down someone else's integrity. It's different when Em does it in his jokes, because no one is confusing him for being smart. This has nothing to do with black people for me. It's all about reason, logic, and morality. If it were Timberlake tearing down his fellow whites in ingnorant ways I'd take the same stand.

You can hide behind your "I'm black, your not. I understand, you can't"  persona all you want, but the fact remains that an ignorant hate filled human being is insulting people for no reason. What would you like Tiger to do? Jim Brown said all this shit in the media, did that change the state of blacks in the Ghettos? Was there less crime and poverty. Nas is complaining for nothing. Like those people that complain about Mel Gibson not giving away all the money he made from Passion. Mel could give away all the 300 million and make no significant difference in the world. It's his money and his mind and what he wants to do is up to him. He isn't hurting anyone by being rich so I let it go. Tiger isn't hurting anyone by being Tiger, so I let him go. (Tiger still gives more back to black kids than Nas does).

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I already said my piece in the other thread. I'm not discussing the issue anymore. I feel where Nas is coming from. That's it.

NobodyButMe:
^^ this may be the first time i've ever disagreed with you on any thread...but nas can eat a dick on this one.

he's actin like he's some sort of savior. fuck that shit. he's got dirty laundry too. fuck him. clean up your own back yard before you start bitchin about people you don't even know. nas gets in these little moods where he thinks he's the only one in the world that understands how people should act...fuck him and his stupid track. what if everyone in the world acted like nas told them to act. we'd have one fucked up, selfish and divided world.  nas doesn't know shit about those fuckin guys and doesn't know shit about 99.99999% of the people that are hearing that record and he's out there tellin people how to act? i tell you what, if anyone comes to me thinking they know me and is tryin to tell me how to act, they can eat a dick.

even if he's 'right' as far as the issues are concerned, tell me what kind of right this fuckin guy has to tell someone how to live. he doesn't know a goddam thing about tiger or cuba or kobe and the way their experiences shaped them - how the fuck are you going to tell someone how to act? for real, nas can eat a dick on this one.

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