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Eminem is the most over-rated producer in hip-hop right now

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white Boy:
eminem sells because, hes controversial, skilled, white, and has poppy singles.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Christoffer ( formerly known as NeAp ) on January 29, 2005, 12:46:55 AM ---Don`t make a fool of yourself, you don`t got to have musical theory to know good music. The most important thing about music is melody. Without a good melody you don`t even have a fucking song! Allmost all Eminem melody`s sound the same. The same boring, messy, cheesy, depressed shit over and over again. That`s the main reason why he sucks. I could get into many other things like the drum programing, producing and executing the track, but it`s no point anyway becouse I honestly think people are deaf to his music, and in love with his image.
By the way Jake, I`m studying music-production at a multimedia school, so by your rules I can talk as much shit as I want about his production  ;D  8)

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But 95 out of 100 times no rap producer composes the melody, they just sample and loop it or have it replayed by studio musicians after they find an old melody from another record.

Take "Nigga Wit A gun" by Dre, and "Pass The Mic" by the Beasties. They both have the exact same melody. Chronic came out a couple months before Check Your Head. It was a case of two different rap acts using the same sample at about the same time. I could steal melodies from 70s funk, but that doesn't make me a good producer.

soopa-man:
he got some hot shyt sometimes but its like he is not as talented to produce a Pac album...50 Cent that would be more like it...when he works with other artist its usually an empty track Nas "the cross", Redman "I C Dead People" empty beats dope loops but it sounds like they were never mixed..its like MTV, XXL, VIBE, write him off as a dope producer and no one goes against the grain and says its wack when it is sometimes, look at "Encore" everyone knows its wack as fuck but evryone owns a copy, and lies about having it, peeps get gassed up with controversy not music....

white Boy:
^ i dont own a copy, and im ebaresed to say its on my ipod tho.. i downloaded it..

smartass:

--- Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 29, 2005, 12:16:55 AM ---
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--- Quote from: BIGjakeDOGGYdogg on January 20, 2005, 02:18:47 AM ---i find it funny....no wait commical how people here say eminem is a horrible producer yet LOOOOOVE daz and battlecat. i ain't saying eminem is dr. dre or nothing but he's not even a fifth as bad as y'all make him out to be....some of y'all need to take up an instrument or a music class

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dont compare eminem to daz ever again, you fucking clown.

dogg food and retaliation revenge and get back>eminems shitty repetitive same snare and bass beats

shit, rockwilder has the same repetitive style and even his production is better than eminem.


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watch out this guy knows REAL music....rockwilder and daz dillinger,lol

dude c'mon i ain't saying em is the best but he's certainly ALOT better musically than some of y'all heros

lose yourself>daz/rockwilders' whole career

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the ramblings of a defeated homosexual. this thread is about production, you blind dickrider.

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^ a wise man once said "if you have to make personal attacks on someone during a disagreement or argument....you lost the argument"

i don't even really like eminem all that much BUT i'll definately give him my props.............when you learn to analyze music you learn to seperate personal bias from the observed quality, learn some musical theory then come back and talk shit about eminem's production style. Until then you're just as foolish as some one saying the beatles suck.

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you already lost, kid. you tried to make the thread about something completely different(true sign of a dickrider), now that you think i "slipped up", you are going to try and bring it back to production. lol @ analyze music, i dont have to analyze shit when he uses the same snare and dark bass in 99% of his tracks, not to mention the fact that he cant layer for shit. another idiot speaking on something they know nothing about...if you never used an mpc in your life, dont even speak on this topic, for real. the only good track he ever did was the thing for 2pac and biggie, and you know why he did that? he found a good vocal sample to use, and he raised the pitch, yet he still used the same tired bass. wow, great producer!!!! hes gnarly duuuuuuuuude

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