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Iraqi elections........will they be a success?
Thirteen:
were you in iraq during this war? were you in guam during ww 2, were you in desert storm?
ok now shut the fuck up...
looks like your reasoning just failed you there didn't it?
Thirteen:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 12:09:48 AM ---Guam was attacked by the Japanese, not us. We went into Guam to fight the Japanese, not the people of Guam. You're arguing one thing, but you're giving examples that don't support your argument.
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wow that looks alot like
2. america had to attack guam to get the japanese out during WWII then had to defend Guam from japan
and before you try and get technical yes we did attack guam...i saw the shells of buildings left from after that attack, i walked the beach were i met the ex japanese slave, he showed us the pill boxes he helped make on the escarpment, the whole island has signs, plaques and statues with guam's war history on them
so what point did you have to make by repeating what i said?
Thirteen:
anyways i'm going to stop with the name calling... your analogy with the little houses getting taken over might be your point of view... the was i see it is more like this.
let's say the city you're living in is it's own little country... now another country thinks your country's government is corrupted on all levels, so it attacks your country and totally removes your government...the attack was pretty much chaos, both side lost people, your country even lost civilians... now, you city doesn't have any government, no law enforcment agencies....what do you think is going to happen? these actions leave you country totally messed up, you can be invaded at any time due to lack of a military, looting is common place due to lack of law enforcement... now can you honestly say your country does not need any source of defense?
i know you're pissed because you can't argue with me about this war being just or unjust because i have a careless attitude about it...so the debate isn't about who attacked who....why they attacked, or if they were justified in attacking....i'm talking about the present time
in iraq, if we left the place without a governent, and in the condition it was in, don't you think long time enemy iran might have taken some interest in iraqi land? and i know you've read about the looting that took place in iraq right after the war...iraqi people raiding palaces, burning down stores, etc....
the us government is training iraqi people to become police officers and starting up a military so the US will no longer have to defend iraq...this is even one of the goals that the puppet president has stated he wanted to achieve...have the US stabilize iraq so they can get out.
there's my point of the argument, you can call me retarded, moron...anything else but there's my point told like a man
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 12:15:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on January 25, 2005, 12:09:48 AM ---Guam was attacked by the Japanese, not us. We went into Guam to fight the Japanese, not the people of Guam. You're arguing one thing, but you're giving examples that don't support your argument.
--- End quote ---
wow that looks alot like
2. america had to attack guam to get the japanese out during WWII then had to defend Guam from japan
and before you try and get technical yes we did attack guam...i saw the shells of buildings left from after that attack, i walked the beach were i met the ex japanese slave, he showed us the pill boxes he helped make on the escarpment, the whole island has signs, plaques and statues with guam's war history on them
so what point did you have to make by repeating what i said?
--- End quote ---
We attacked the Japanese who took over Guam... who did we attack in Iraq?
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 25, 2005, 12:37:18 AM ---in iraq, if we left the place without a governent, and in the condition it was in, don't you think long time enemy iran might have taken some interest in iraqi land? and i know you've read about the looting that took place in iraq right after the war...iraqi people raiding palaces, burning down stores, etc....
the us government is training iraqi people to become police officers and starting up a military so the US will no longer have to defend iraq...this is even one of the goals that the puppet president has stated he wanted to achieve...have the US stabilize iraq so they can get out.
there's my point of the argument, you can call me retarded, moron...anything else but there's my point told like a man
--- End quote ---
Nah, I respect your view, but I disagree with it. Anyways, what I quoted here... I agree with that, it's our duty now to stabilize Iraq, BUT you can't claim that our mission as a whole is one of "DEFENSE" as you like to call it. Reconstruction and things of that sort are part of our DUTY... "You break it, you buy it". Had Iraq attacked the U.S., and we went over and fucked them up, then NO, it wouldn't be our duty to reconstruct their country, they asked for it; however, that's not the case. We just went over there and blew the place up for no justifiable reason, and now it's our duty to fix what we broke. You can't claim however that we're there to DEFEND the Iraqis, we're there now because certain people are making $$$.
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