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Question: Do you see much hate literature in the mosques you visit?
Quote from: Woodrow on January 31, 2005, 07:49:15 AMQuestion: Do you see much hate literature in the mosques you visit?no
The only thing I'm being taught to hate or dislike as a Muslim is oppression. And I didn't even have to be taught that by any religion.
Quote from: Thul Hijjah 1425 A.H. on January 31, 2005, 02:39:16 PMThe only thing I'm being taught to hate or dislike as a Muslim is oppression. And I didn't even have to be taught that by any religion. So what about the oppression of people from other religions under Sharia?
First of all, the Sharia was pieced together by (imperfect man) certian scholars, many of whom have disagreed on certain items, and will continue to disagree, and is not always applied correctly. Much of what you see in the Sharia is not from the Noble Qu'ran.
For example, this whole thing about someone being killed for leaving Islam is not found in the Qu'ran. Infact, the Qu'ran states that there is no compulsion in religion, and consistently reinforces that what makes man special is that Allah has given him the free will to choose, so no man should ever take away someone's right to choose their religion.
Still, do not think negetively on Islamic government. During the times when Muslims still had a Caliphate, and a Muslim Empire, the Ottoman Empire, Christians and Jews were allowed to administer to their own laws in their cities. The only requirement was that they pay taxes, just as you and I are required to pay taxes in this country. The Muslims were already paying their own religious tax, Muslims are required to pay a tax in the Noble Qu'ran. Infact, Jews even experienced their golden age in art and literature under Muslim rule in Spain. Jews will readily admit to this.
That's funny, I can find multiple examples all over the internet (many from Islamic web sites) stating that Sharia is derived directly from the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sunnah. To say it doesn't all come from the Koran may be true, but either you don’t understand your own religion, or you’re deliberately trying to misguide people. No Taqiyya Please. Also, if there's so much wrong with the Sharia, why is it praticed in the "home" of Islam, Saudi Arabia?
It may not be found in the Koran, but it's pratcied in a majority of Muslim countries. What you fail to mention about the "compulsion" verse is that it's overridden by subsequent Koranic verses(9:73 for starters). The way you speak, you claim that there is only one religion, and everybody is muslim (remember the moon and sun are both muslim talk?). How can there be "compulsion" when you say things like that?
This is an outright lie. You're telling me that jizya and zakat were essentially the same? Do some reading.
You admitted that it doesn't all come from the Noble Qu'ran, so that's the end of that argument.
Secondly, Saudi Arabia is not the "home" of Islam. Mekkah is the city we make pilgrimage too, and that city happens to be inside Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia is not the home of Islam. Saudi got it's name from the Saudi royal family, the British backed the Saudi's and helped put them into power around World War 1. The last time the Muslims had a Caliphate and Islamic empire was in the 19th century under the Ottoman Empire that was in Istanbull, Turkey. The Caliphate and the Ottoman was defeated in World War 1.
First of all it's not practiced in a majority of Muslim countries, go to your little Islamichate.com websites and find me proof that it's practiced by a majority of Muslim countries, you can not back that statement up, it is a lie. As for the sun and the moon being Muslim, they are submitters to the will of the Creator, and they do not deviate from their prescribed courses, us, on the other hand, although we were created by Allah, he has given us free will, and some people choose to reject the reality of their Creator.
Once again, if I'm lying then go to your IhateIslam.com website and find proof. What I said is not a lie. The American government forces me to pay taxes in this country. Likewise, in an Islamic country all people are required to pay taxes. Muslims are obligated to pay our religious tax, and non-Muslims are obligated to pay jizya tax.