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communism could it have worked?
7even:
A really working form of communism is utopic. It's about a society without classes. That is impossible, and against human nature. During our entire history, there have been conflicts between rich and poor, slaveholders and slaves, nobility and peasants.
nibs:
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on February 16, 2005, 07:10:34 PM ---Communism is a great idea that could never work.
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that may be the wrong way to look at it. i think the real question is:
"communism has pretty much failed everywhere it's been tried; what would you do differently to allow for a successful communist society?"
That is impossible, and against human nature. During our entire history, there have been conflicts between rich and poor, slaveholders and slaves, nobility and peasants.
comunism is supposed to keep the gap between the rich and poor reasonable. unlike in capitalist societies and ownership societies where the gap between the rich and poor only grows with time. capitalism had a problem with slaveholders and slaves and with segregation very recently. capitalism is more susceptible to these sorts of issues than communism; as industry is privately controlled and less regulated.
mauzip:
--- Quote from: Suffice on February 17, 2005, 12:39:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mauzip a.k.a. The Legal Alien on February 17, 2005, 12:25:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Suffice on February 16, 2005, 05:57:06 PM ---the fastest growing economy in the world
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that's about the only positive thing about china
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hmmm... standard of living has quadrupled in the past 15 years, that's sayin something. THe reason china is behind is because of Mao's "reforms" like the hundred flowers campaign which basically impeded China's progress in the name of communist ideology. Deng Xiao Ping was the smarter man and introduced the Socialist Market economy, and ever since then China has been moving forward. Watch, in 25 years China will be on the same level as the U.S. as far as economy goes
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keep dreaming homeboy
i don't have stats neither i feel like looking them up, but there's a LOT of poverty in china
people are homeless all their life and the gov't won't help them out. great country!
7even:
--- Quote from: nibs on February 17, 2005, 04:32:25 AM ---
That is impossible, and against human nature. During our entire history, there have been conflicts between rich and poor, slaveholders and slaves, nobility and peasants.
comunism is supposed to keep the gap between the rich and poor reasonable. unlike in capitalist societies and ownership societies where the gap between the rich and poor only grows with time. capitalism had a problem with slaveholders and slaves and with segregation very recently. capitalism is more susceptible to these sorts of issues than communism; as industry is privately controlled and less regulated.
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LoL.. um.. am I saying something different? Capitalism just fits our society better. Although communism would be pretty cool, Humans are no communists. It can never work. Never. I'm talking about the perfect form of the idea of communism, of course some lighter forms obviously work, but not as good as they would if the human race was different.
rafsta:
you fucking commies...
communism would have never worked, and was a shit house idea, it would bring down our race in every shape form and fashion... competition and rising to our best is what drives us forward, if everyone is equal there would be too many people not pulling their weight... its not about human nature, its about what an individual wants.
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