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Thousands of Dutch Fleeing Their Country Because of Muslim Immigrants
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on March 06, 2005, 04:57:59 PM ---One thing you retards have to ask yourself is: when did the people in the Middle East start having anti-American sentiments? Only after you guys started fucking with their countries. Before nobody gave a shit about Arabs... after oil is discovered these fucking Americans/Europeans start causing chaos in the region, setting up puppet states, invading countries for no justified reasons, etc.... CWalker, go educate yourself.
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That's one reason, no doubt.
Reason two imo is that you dont really have good Governments there..
(not a good reason to randomly invade "your" Countries to change them, dont get me wrong)
With all the oil Iraq got it's incredible how population cant buy something to eat.
Shit they poorest than Albanians!
This makes shit extremely worse, cause when you hungry, you hate.
All the money/power in the hands of a few guys..
90% of the population poor.
They let you feel like Americans are the ones to blame.
Or jews.
But it's not always like that.
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Antonio on March 06, 2005, 05:09:02 PM ---Reason two imo is that you dont really have good Governments there..
With all the oil Iraq got it's incredible how population cant buy something to eat.
All the money/power in the hands of a few guys..
90% of the population poor.
They let you feel like Americans are the ones to blame.
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1. You're right. They don't have "good" governments. If you read, you'd know why. Who put Saddam in power? Who supported Saddam? Who supports Egypt? Who supports the Saudi royal family? Who supported the Mujahideen and later the Taliban? We set up these governments that are "not good". It's all about $$$.
2. Yes, you're right again. You want to know why Iraq's population didn't have shit? Well they wanted to nationalize their oil fields, but we wouldn't let them. We got rid of that leader and gave them Saddam instead. Instead of letting them help themselves with THEIR OWN resources, we decided it's more important that we make the profits. Then they fought a war against Iran (we sold weapons to both sides, basically saying: let them blow each other to pieces). After that, their economy was in ruins. Now would be a good time to use that oil to help rebuild the country. That's when Kuwait increased its oil production (drive down the price of oil) to appease western interests, even though the countries had set up quotas. That angered Saddam because this is when he needed money the most. The U.S. publicly stated that we would not get involved, so Saddam decided to enter Kuwait. Within 2 days the U.S. was over there. There have been many reports from people in the military that have admitted to preparing for a war against Iraq because they knew they were going to invade. The government lied... surprise surprise. So after the Gulf War, the country was even more fucked up than before. We bombed electric/water facilities, buildings that stored food, etc. Use some fucked up shit to kill people for ten years after we leave. Kids have continued to die of cancer because of radiation from shit we left behind for ten years after we left. You want to know why the country couldn't feed its own people, there's your answer. We fucked their country up.
3. If you don't think Americans are to blame, I will give you a whole run-down of history proving exactly why America IS to blame. Our government knows its to blame. Our biggest mistake in the last 20 years was leaving Afghanistan after the Cold War. If you don't know why, let me know, and I'll explain this as well.
acbaylove:
There's a "only" missing in that sentence, sorry.
--- Quote ---They let you feel like Americans are the ONLY ones to blame.
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I agree with what you wrote tho.
The New Pollution:
--- Quote from: 40oz GRApHire on March 06, 2005, 04:16:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: The New Pollution on March 05, 2005, 02:14:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: O.G. Techniec on March 05, 2005, 08:41:04 AM ---Shook Ones get no love. I cant get run out of my neighbourhood, and youre being chased out ya country? By this international boogie man they call the Islamic Terrorist? Are YOU really this stupid?
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The Dutch government is basically chasing us out of our country by giving the Islamic community a lot of priviliges they get for reasons no one has figured out yet. You have no idea how this country works, so don't be an ignorant loser and just stay out of the discussion if you don't have anything usefull to add.
About the Muslims in this country. A lot of them suck. I know I don't politically correct and all. I even sound like a discriminating piece of shit. But guess what? I don't care. The Muslims here are being raised like they own this country. Because they get their welfare checks to pay for all their brand clothing and fancy perfumes. Yet, most of them don't even care for learning this language properly or even get a proper education. Not that they really need one, considering the states is giving them all they could possibly need.
And to awnser the question about our patriotism. This country has no real culture, so nothing to be really proud of.
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I wont say all of those alligations are true.. But we sure shouldnt blame the religion for this as I said before.. I guess Belgium have about the same problem but I think the really problem lays here with the Goverment not wanted to feel racist, its a very touchy spot in politics in Beligium & Netherland...
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I never said it's because of their religion. It's just a fact that most of those people behave like that here.
And yes, I also stated that it's because of the government.
Florez:
Lets all stick to the topic ok
In my opinion its hard to judge the Islam because most of us don't know shit about it. I do think that there is a big problem in the Netherlands because of the fact that when all the turkey's and maroks etc came to the Netherlands to do the jobs that the Dutch people wouldn't do, like all kinds of shitty jobs, afterwards we didn't want them anymore but we couldn't send them back so we just kept them here and didn't put any effort in to make them adjust to the western world. A couple of decania's later we face the problem, but this is mainly because of the so called CULTURE SHOCK; two culture's who don't understand each other.
The reason why many young islam people are criminal is because the youth lives between two cultures; At home where everything is very strict and they don't have much freedom or money, and outside where they can do what they want to do without being punished severe by the soft Dutch law system. Besides most of the immigrants don't come from the big cities like Istanbul but from villages who are still underdeveloped.
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