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Thousands of Dutch Fleeing Their Country Because of Muslim Immigrants

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The New Pollution:

--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---Lets all stick to the topic ok
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Everything's still on topic. See the last post before yours?



--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---two culture's who don't understand each other
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No shit. And it's their fucking job to understand ours and adept to it. Not vica versa. You live in our country, you live by our fucking rules. Get used to it, do it, or get the fuck out of here.

And as I stated before, my mom's a Greek immigrant. So I don't mind the fact that people move to the Netherlands for work.

Florez:

--- Quote from: The New Pollution on March 10, 2005, 12:10:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---Lets all stick to the topic ok
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Everything's still on topic. See the last post before yours?



--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---two culture's who don't understand each other
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No shit. And it's their fucking job to understand ours and adept to it. Not vica versa. You live in our country, you live by our fucking rules. Get used to it, do it, or get the fuck out of here.

And as I stated before, my mom's a Greek immigrant. So I don't mind the fact that people move to the Netherlands for work.

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Wow easy tiger I'm just stating some facts nothing to get upset about.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---Lets all stick to the topic ok

In my opinion its hard to judge the Islam because most of us don't know shit about it. I do think that there is a big problem in the Netherlands because of the fact that when all the turkey's and maroks etc came to the Netherlands to do the jobs that the Dutch people wouldn't do, like all kinds of shitty jobs, afterwards we didn't want them anymore but we couldn't send them back so we just kept them here and didn't put any effort in to make them adjust to the western world. A couple of decania's later we face the problem, but this is mainly because of the so called CULTURE SHOCK; two culture's who don't understand each other.

The reason why many young islam people are criminal is because the youth lives between two cultures; At home where everything is very strict and they don't have much freedom or money, and outside where they can do what they want to do without being punished severe by the soft Dutch law system. Besides most of the immigrants don't come from the big cities like Istanbul but from villages who are still underdeveloped.

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First of all I respect you for your sincerity.  I just want to add a few thoughts.  First of all, crime has nothing to do with Islam, Muslim countries have crime rates that are extremely lower then the crime rates in Western countries.  Look it up anywhere you want on the internet.  Second of all, it has nothing to do with the Muslims being from "underdeveloped" regions.  Talk to a Muslim immigrant and ask them where the crime is located at in their countries, they will tell you that if crime exists, it is in the cities.  In the rural, so-called "underdeveloped" regions of Muslim countries, there are tribal and Islamic laws in place, and people strictly follow and adhere to these laws in a community effort, and they are often in no need of a government to enforce these laws. 

As for your other assesments about the crime being caused by poverty, etc., that could be true.



TraceOneInfinite:
..... And as for CWalker, you got to learn your history man, Just look at the history of America.  Until the 14th century, Muslims had been ruling Spain for almost 700 years, under Muslims, Jews and Christians were able to have their own courts and follow the laws of their own Holy Books inside their regions.  The Jews experienced their golden age of art and literature under Muslims.  Then Queen Isabella, a Chrisitan, came down from the North, and killed anyone who said they were anything other than a Christian.  Then later, a Spaniard, Christopher Columbus, another Christian, came to the Bahamas, and was quoted as saying "the only thing the Native people were good for was for being slaves."  When they didn't make good slaves, he killed them all, and they shipped in "better slaves" from Africa.  That is the reason the Bahamas is black today.  Christians did the same thing in America.  They commited genocide against the Native American's, and used African's as slaves, many of those Africans came from regions such as Senegal and Gambia which are almost 100% Muslim countries, they were forced, whipped and tortured into changing their name and their religions.  Their history's were erased.

^^^^^^^ CWalker, Everything I said above is fact.  You can not deny it.  It is no propaganda, you can find it in your own textbooks.

The New Pollution:

--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:15:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: The New Pollution on March 10, 2005, 12:10:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---Lets all stick to the topic ok
--- End quote ---


Everything's still on topic. See the last post before yours?



--- Quote from: Florez on March 10, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---two culture's who don't understand each other
--- End quote ---


No shit. And it's their fucking job to understand ours and adept to it. Not vica versa. You live in our country, you live by our fucking rules. Get used to it, do it, or get the fuck out of here.

And as I stated before, my mom's a Greek immigrant. So I don't mind the fact that people move to the Netherlands for work.

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Wow easy tiger I'm just stating some facts nothing to get upset about.

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If I'd get upset over the internet, I'd do it like the rest of the forum and call you a "pUnc asz biatch". But considering I have other things to worry about, I, uh, don't.


--- Quote from: Safar, 1426 Years After Hijrah on March 10, 2005, 03:35:11 PM ---I just want to add a few thoughts.  First of all, crime has nothing to do with Islam

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Jesus H Christ, yes, we know. No one stated that. We know.

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