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America cleans its human rights records and bans capital punishment 4 juveniles
7even:
When kids do things like that it is the fault of the country and its society not the kids as such.
Machiavelli:
--- Quote from: 7even the Mastermind on March 03, 2005, 03:00:28 AM ---When kids do things like that it is the fault of the country and its society not the kids as such.
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Its the kids fault. He chose to kill someone. He didnt have to.
If the society says jump off a bridge are you gunna do it.
Trauma-san:
I think it should be legal to execute juveniles. Hilariously, the court majority argued that children 'aren't capable' of determining their own actions until they're 18, and that they're mind isn't fully developed.
In the past, they've argued just the opposite. Children are just small people; that's why they can have abortions without their parents consent.
So which is it... a child is old enough to make the decision to kill a baby she fucked around and got pregnant with, she has enough of a mind to do that... but she doesn't have enough of a mind to know that killing somebody is bad. It's a direct contradiction of the Supreme Court's previous rulings.
Whatever though, I don't get 16 year olds pregnant, and I don't execute minors. So I guess it's none of my business.
Lastly: Average time it takes to execute someone on death row: 14 years. So the law today, sure saved all those 4 year old murderers and rapists from the horrible death that liberals have been trying to implant in our heads.
Don Rizzle:
12 year waits don't stop people getting stitched up for things they didn't do it just makes the whole situation much more unbarable for them. the last person to be executed in England was later found out to be innocent (it wasn't the reason for abolishing the death penalty) it just goes to show when the state plays god they can get it wrong, and they are supposed to be protecting the innocent civillians but sometimes target those they are there to protect which is one of my main beefs with capitol punishment.
I agree they probably knew killing another person is wrong unless they were insane, i believe in rehabilitation. plus i did lots of bad things when i was 15/16 i went off the rails but now on the whole i believe i'm a good citizen and i don't think i'll ever turn back to how i was.
What astonishes me about you trauma is that you approve of indescriminate bombings of innocent civilians on little or no intelligence in places like Iraq and view those commiting atrocities as heros but if it someone does something bad in america they should get the chair. its a huge contradiction if you ask me, and just shows how fucked up american values truely are.
Jome:
--- Quote from: Machiavelli on March 03, 2005, 03:25:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Mastermind on March 03, 2005, 03:00:28 AM ---When kids do things like that it is the fault of the country and its society not the kids as such.
--- End quote ---
Its the kids fault. He chose to kill someone. He didnt have to.
If the society says jump off a bridge are you gunna do it.
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And where the fuck did he get a gun from ??
It's not just morals, it's weapon politics as well.
If some kid got a hold of a gun without a license in most countries, there would be a big ass case, and the ADULT RESPONSIBLE for giving the kid a gun, or not keeping his guns in a safe place would get punished, or banned from owning guns.
Kids/teenagers shooting guns was never issue in MOST countries, it's where it's easy accessable that you get these situations.
--- Quote from: Rampant on March 02, 2005, 03:58:25 PM ---Im under the law considered a minor.
I understand what murder is. If i were to go kill 30 people what are you supposed to do....put me through counseling?
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Ohh yeah, that happens every other day.. ::)
If that's a likely scenario where you live, then you got a lot worse problems than death penalty to deal with.
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