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Trauma, tell us about the Church of Latter Day Saints and how you became Mormon
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Antonio on March 13, 2005, 08:04:24 AM ---
Sorry i dont understand. The Church of Latter Day Saints is a special branch of the Roman Church? I was talking about the Roman Church, Christians Catholics. This dialogue between me and you is Roman Church vs Muslims. I dont know if Trauma's religion supported the war.
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Origionally the thread was about Trauma and Mormons. I made my statements concerning Trauma and Mormons. The Church of Latter Day Saints consider themselves to be Christians. I was talking about Christians generally and Mormons specifically. But now you are informing me that we are talking about Roman Church vs. Muslims. Now that I know that I will speak on the Catholic Church specifically. Yes, you are right, the Catholic Church did a very good thing, not only did the Pope denounce this war and take an anti-war stance, but I think the official stance of the Catholic Church was also against the 1rst Gulf War. Not because they have been against all wars indefinitely, but because they felt that America's war in Iraq was morally wrong, and that it is a corrupt, imperialistic war... which it is.
--- Quote from: Antonio on March 13, 2005, 08:04:24 AM ---
Only difference (with Africa): no oil.
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There is oil all over Africa. Nigeria, Libya, Sudan, and others have oil just as plentiful as the oil in the Middle East. And they are still drilling all over Africa for more oil yet to be discovered.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Safar, 1426 Years After Hijrah on March 13, 2005, 04:10:21 PM ---Origionally the thread was about Trauma and Mormons. I made my statements concerning Trauma and Mormons. The Church of Latter Day Saints consider themselves to be Christians. I was talking about Christians generally and Mormons specifically. But now you are informing me that we are talking about Roman Church vs. Muslims. Now that I know that I will speak on the Catholic Church specifically.
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I know they consider themselves to be Christians, but they aint considered like that from the Catholic Church, you know what i mean? The only thing in common with Catholic Church is that they believe in God, like us. So they're like two whole different religions. I'm talking for myself and for the Catholic Church.
--- Quote ---Yes, you are right, the Catholic Church did a very good thing, not only did the Pope denounce this war and take an anti-war stance, but I think the official stance of the Catholic Church was also against the 1rst Gulf War. Not because they have been against all wars indefinitely, but because they felt that America's war in Iraq was morally wrong, and that it is a corrupt, imperialistic war... which it is.
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Well you said it in a way the Pope didnt say it. Your is an interpretation. However it's a fact the Pope condamned this war and he's against all the "preventive" wars, yes.
--- Quote ---There is oil all over Africa. Nigeria, Libya, Sudan, and others have oil just as plentiful as the oil in the Middle East. And they are still drilling all over Africa for more oil yet to be discovered.
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Well that's a good thing to discuss, but let's stay on topic. We'll discuss about it next time (remember it).
Trauma-san:
Mormons believe in following the law of the land, and that the United States was blessed by God from it's inception, and they fully support the government, especially in war times. That's why they support the war, there's no specific reason for it, other than they support the government in everything they do. They believe the constitution was inspired by God, and the United States was founded as a place of religious freedom for all people, of any nation to come to avoid persecution. They're typically very patriotic people, and would support any war the United States chose to enter. The aspects of the government that the church doesn't agree with (Abortion, etc.) they feel they should work to peacefully, civily change the laws, not break the laws, and that if it's the lord's will, the laws, etc. will be changed.
A good example is that the Mormons after moving west, had a ton of men die on the trip, in the fall and winter to Utah... so upon arriving there, being unable to decide how to mate their ideas of women being supported by their families, and the belief that women shouldn't live with men they're not married to... they started marrying multiple wives, practicing polygamy, and all kinds of twisted warped stuff. After a while, the United States government passed a law making it Illegal to practice polygamy, and the church immediately outlawed it, splintering the church into two factions and causing all sorts of problems. The official stance of the church was that God wanted them first to obey the laws of the land, and that his law would fall in line with that. The book of Mormon (written supposedly before the 2nd century A.D., but at latest written by Joseph Smith himself in the 1830's, years before this polygamy debate) itself mentions Polygamy as ungodly and an abomination, etc.
So there's an example of Mormons supporting the government, even when it conflicts with their views.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Trauma on March 13, 2005, 08:26:27 PM ---Mormons believe in following the law of the land, and that the United States was blessed by God from it's inception, and they fully support the government, especially in war times. They're typically very patriotic people, and would support any war the United States chose to enter.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
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So let me get this straight, they support the United States in any war?
Fathom:
--- Quote from: BigBDrugStores on March 09, 2005, 05:03:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on March 09, 2005, 04:51:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: BigBDrugStores on March 09, 2005, 04:29:26 PM ---id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
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That's only part of it... would you also like to have intercourse with your children and nephews/nieces? Then the Church of Latter Day Saints is for you!
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sign me up :D
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LMAO
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