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Quote from: Hellfire Dame on March 09, 2005, 01:45:27 PMExperimentation Experimentation my ass. No one in hip-hop experiments anymore. Most of you people have no idea what the definition of experimental music is.What doesn't make him suck? Trying to do something that he can't and stick to it. Xzibit tried the mainstream west coast gangster stuff, and he started to suck. Talib Kweli tried to make radio friendly music, and it started to suck.Same with other genres of music. Nirvana tried to make a Pixies record, and ended up making the worst album of their career (Nevermind). Metallica were good. Then suddenly, they released something like the Black Album (shit album) and they were terrible.If you're good at one thing, do one thing only. If you're good at more, then please do more. (Like Madlib, or in rock music, Radiohead).
Nirvana tried to make a Pixies record, and ended up making the worst album of their career (Nevermind). Metallica were good. Then suddenly, they released something like the Black Album (shit album) and they were terrible.
Quote from: The New Pollution on March 09, 2005, 01:53:34 PMQuote from: Hellfire Dame on March 09, 2005, 01:45:27 PMExperimentation Experimentation my ass. No one in hip-hop experiments anymore. Most of you people have no idea what the definition of experimental music is.What doesn't make him suck? Trying to do something that he can't and stick to it. Xzibit tried the mainstream west coast gangster stuff, and he started to suck. Talib Kweli tried to make radio friendly music, and it started to suck.Same with other genres of music. Nirvana tried to make a Pixies record, and ended up making the worst album of their career (Nevermind). Metallica were good. Then suddenly, they released something like the Black Album (shit album) and they were terrible.If you're good at one thing, do one thing only. If you're good at more, then please do more. (Like Madlib, or in rock music, Radiohead).you´re good at simplifying drastically...You cannot predict exactly how good you´re gonna be at doing something. The main point in making an experimental record actually is that you do not now how it´s gonna turn out to be. An experimental record that has been done by somebody who knew what he was doing or going to do very well is a fucking paradoxAlso, i would like to know what is so bad about Nevermind. Just cause Cobain admitted the Pixies were a source of inspiration for "Smells Like Teen Spirit", it doesn´t mean they "tried to make a Pixies record" and neither does it actually sound like one. So tell me about why this is such a terribly bad record (and please don´t base your opinion on the cliché of the-more-polished-the-worse, i can understand why people prefer "Bleach" for that reason, but then stick to calling it personal taste)...peace
Quote from: The New Pollution on March 09, 2005, 01:53:34 PMNirvana tried to make a Pixies record, and ended up making the worst album of their career (Nevermind). Metallica were good. Then suddenly, they released something like the Black Album (shit album) and they were terrible.lol you gotta be the dumbest person ive ever met.Your trying to tell me that Nirvanas worst album was nevermind, and metallicas worst album was the black album?Those were their greatest albums.
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..... Also, experimentation can work as well, look at groups like Outkast, their sound is still fresh even after all these years.
Uhm, there is nothing experimental about Outkast.
Quote from: The New Pollution on March 10, 2005, 04:26:07 PMUhm, there is nothing experimental about Outkast.Then how do you explain the fact that they have a new sound and new subject matter with every album?Southernplayisticadallacmusic- Their first album they were a couple of young kids, bragging about being playa's and thuggin, they had tracks like "Players Ball" and "Call of Da Wild", granted, it was still very intelligence, but it was more high energy and rebellious then anything. Organized Noise produced tracks that sounded a little West Coast.Atliens- The next album was space aged. Andre 3000 stared experimenting with his image and his persona, he was rockin Islamic turbans, women in "aTliens" even had viels on, and in a couple of their video's they were traveling through Pyramids. This time organized noise slowed the beats down, and they became took on a persona of hip-hop philosophers.Aquemini- This album was more funk, Andre started dressing crazy, even dressin drag, the sound changed more then the message did, but they still showed progression, it earned 5 micsStankonia- Outkast really took off as producers on this album. They had their own sound, they no longer needed Organized Noise. Andre was going through a divorce, and he was questioning everything about himself and about his life, Big Boi went back to being a gansta. And they even experienced with Techno sounds (Bombs Over Bagdad was a huge success) and voice changes on the album. Speaker Box/Love Below- Andre totally went all the way out to left field, started thinking he was Jimmy Hendrix or Lenny Kravitz or something, left hip-hop all together and made a rock record, and Big Boi had an all new sound as well, they didn't even come together much for this one, so they had to do two seperate cd's. ....... How in the world is that not classified as experimenting? State your case!