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LeBron James and the Play Offs

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7even:

--- Quote from: Antonio on April 18, 2005, 05:35:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Annoyed One on April 18, 2005, 05:29:41 AM ---The team is just not getting its stuff together at the moment, it is that simple. Coaching problems and shit. Garnett doesnt make the playoffs neither, and look at the change Denver made when the coach has been exchanged. Cavs were #2 of the EC for a long ass time. Now they barely make #8. Denver was horrible before Karl and has been the best team in the NBA since Karl came. A good coach can't change the potential of a team and its players, which Cavs don't lack, but he can make them to get their fucking shit together, and thisĀ  is what the current Cav staff isnt doing right now.
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Ok so now i know why the Lakers didnt make the Play Offs. Thank God i'm happier now. We just miss Phil.

With a better coach, like Phil, Lakers should really have been able to make at least fucking spot 8. The problem is not that they didnt make it, the problem is that they won the western conference finals last year and now they are a plain joke. That's not to blame on the coach. But with Phil, they would have made the playoffs I think. Not being a contender or a feared them or anything to that degree, far from it. But at least make the playoffs and lose every game in round 1, that would have been realistic.


--- Quote ---I still think they make the playoffs. Toronto isnt too tough to beat. Fucked up though, if they had #6, they would play vs Boston which would be really easy, compared to Detroit or Miami. First round out in 4 games vs. Miami, that's my prediction.
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Man right now they are out the Play Offs. It's all up to New Jersey now. If they win they in. Game over.

Oh shit youre right   :o  :( :-\

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acbaylove:
Shit i've deleted my last post. Well you quoted it, so it's ok.


--- Quote from: 7even the Annoyed One on April 18, 2005, 05:40:57 AM ---With a better coach, like Phil, Lakers should really have been able to make at least fucking spot 8. The problem is not that they didnt make it, the problem is that they won the western conference finals last year and now they are a plain joke. That's not to blame on the coach. But with Phil, they would have made the playoffs I think. Not being a contender or a feared them or anything to that degree, far from it. But at least make the playoffs and lose every game in round 1, that would have been realistic.
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I agree. But look, the problem is that people forgot Lakers changed 10 players out of 12 this year. It's not the same team of last year less Shaq. It's totally a new team with 10 new players. A new PG, a new SF, a new PF, a new C, 6 new bench players, a new coach, another new coach replacing him. That's why i disagree with all this hating on Kobe. Not even Jordan was able to make the Bulls a contender team with 10 new players from a month to the other. Buss chosed to totally re-build the team. Nobody was expecting them to win the title this year. But yes, the plot was to make the Play-Offs. They failed. But like you said there are a lot of things to explain it, and none of them is called Kobe Bryant. We can blame Rudy T retiring, Hamblen not being Phil, Divac and George missing the whole season, Kobe being injured 20+ games, Odom being injured 10+ games, Butler and Mihm being injured, Grant being useless.. Kobe is the last one to blame, imo. In the same way, LeBron is the last one to blame. But shit, i'm just saying media made him MJ already, but he cant still be compared to Reggie Miller and Carter.

7even:
Try to imagine LeBron being a nobody as a rookie, 20th pick or so lol - and then playing like this. I don't know what people would say. Fact is, he has been so damn hyped before he even scored his first point in the NBA.... this leads to advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is the embarrassment when his team won't make the playoffs. He never even attended a dunking contest because the pressure was so high that not winning it would have been an insane embarrassment, and he's still a kid, not much older than me LMAO. Not leading the team to the playoffs is really disappointing, I so didnt see this comin when they were #2 in the east and alive and kicking. But hell, one thing is sure though, he achieved great stats and I saw a lot of great plays by him, so what the hell. Maybe he can change the team after next season.

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: 7even the Annoyed One on April 18, 2005, 06:00:11 AM ---Try to imagine LeBron being a nobody as a rookie, 20th pick or so lol - and then playing like this. I don't know what people would say. Fact is, he has been so damn hyped before he even scored his first point in the NBA.... this leads to advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is the embarrassment when his team won't make the playoffs. He never even attended a dunking contest because the pressure was so high that not winning it would have been an insane embarrassment, and he's still a kid, not much older than me LMAO. Not leading the team to the playoffs is really disappointing, I so didnt see this comin when they were #2 in the east and alive and kicking. But hell, one thing is sure though, he achieved great stats and I saw a lot of great plays by him, so what the hell. Maybe he can change the team after next season.
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That's it.

hisairness:
Just remember, like a lot of guys have been saying, MJ wasn't instant success for the Bulls.  And if you look at it, LeBron isn't putting all his trust into his teammates.  It took Jordan a few seasons to quit shooting all the time and trust his teammates.  Besides, as it's already been pointed out, the kid is 20.

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