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LeBron James and the Play Offs
R-Tistic:
--- Quote from: Antonio on April 17, 2005, 05:00:11 PM ---I'm not knocking him this early, i really think he got game. But i think media hyped him too much without knowing if he's really a winner or if he's just another Tracy McGrady. "He's still 20!", that's the thing i'm keep reading as the excuse. Ok, but he wasnt even 20 when he was selected for the All Star game. He wasnt even 20 when he was selected to play in the Olympic US Team, returning home with no-golden medal. He wasnt even 20 when he signed that monster contract with Nike. So fuck age! If he's 20, then we should consider him like a good promising 20 years old guy.
Melo was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he carried Denver over his shoulders last year, till the Play Offs. And he's doing it again at 21.
Wade was 22 when he carried Miami over his shoulders last year, advancing in the Play Offs. He's 23 now and he'll probably win his first ring.
Kobe was 23 when he first won a ring. Then 24. Then 25.
Magic was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he won his first title playing Center. Then he was 21. 22. etc..
Bird was 24 when he won the title.
Etc..
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Thing about age is...it's very very hard to actually lead a team and make players better when most are older than you. I don't know if you played sports, but if you did, you'd definitely see where I'm coming from. If you played High School BBall, it doesn't matter if a freshman star is by far the best talent on the team, his older players aren't gonna always want to listen to him and follow his lead, only because he's yougner than them and their ego gets in the way. Magic was just a beast period, and was amazing at what he did. At the same time, you can't expect Lebron to do EVERY single thing that every other star did. Lebron is doin what 90% of all other superstars never did at his age, so don't knock him for not bein able to lead his team quite yet. And if you listen to the reporters and media, the Cavs are doin horrible because of the internal problems which don't really relate to Lebron himself.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: R-Tistic.com on April 18, 2005, 07:28:02 AM ---Thing about age is...it's very very hard to actually lead a team and make players better when most are older than you. I don't know if you played sports, but if you did, you'd definitely see where I'm coming from. If you played High School BBall, it doesn't matter if a freshman star is by far the best talent on the team, his older players aren't gonna always want to listen to him and follow his lead, only because he's yougner than them and their ego gets in the way. Magic was just a beast period, and was amazing at what he did. At the same time, you can't expect Lebron to do EVERY single thing that every other star did. Lebron is doin what 90% of all other superstars never did at his age, so don't knock him for not bein able to lead his team quite yet. And if you listen to the reporters and media, the Cavs are doin horrible because of the internal problems which don't really relate to Lebron himself.
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Yeah, i know. Like i said he got game, he got skills, he can improve a lot, etc..
The problem is that the media pictured him as the best player ever when he was still playing college basketball.
He aint God.
He's a 20 years old kid, like you all are saying.
Maybe the best 20 years old ever.
But Reggie Miller about to retire is still better than him in my book.
OneHittaSpitta:
--- Quote from: Antonio on April 17, 2005, 02:26:51 PM ---8. Cleveland 40-40
x. New Jersey 39-40
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
What's wrong with him? Should we only blame the teammates? Cause damn, you all dissed the fuck out of Kobe for the Lakers not making the Play-Offs, and Lakers have just 1 All Star player instead of 2, and they play in the Western Conference instead than in the Eastern one. Reading your comments it looks like LeBron is 10x better than Kobe and like LeBron is the future. Facts are that Melo carried his team in the Play Offs twice and LeBron is risking to do a 0-2 in the wackest Conference!
x. L.A. Lakers 34-45 (but they just dont care no more, so they're keep loosing..)
They aint that far away.
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lol do u remember Kobe's first couple of years? I think youre jumpin tha gun just a little here man, u gotta give him time to develop. He's still a kid basically. Btw, i dont think he's better then kobe yet, and i definetely dont think he's the next MJ. But i do think he will eventually be better then Kobe. Ive always thought Lebron was more of a Magic Johnson kinda player, then Jordan anyways.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: OneHittaSpitta on April 18, 2005, 08:20:43 AM ---lol do u remember Kobe's first couple of years?
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He wasnt even close to Eddie Jones, i remember yeah. In fact i didnt hear people saying he was the best player ever without scoring a single point in the league. And i still think Kobe gotta prove me everything.
--- Quote ---I think youre jumpin tha gun just a little here man, u gotta give him time to develop. He's still a kid basically.
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I'll give him all the time he needs. It's people saying he the MVP of this Regular Season who is not giving him the necessary time. I'm giving him all the time he needs. Wishing him all the best.
--- Quote ---Btw, i dont think he's better then kobe yet, and i definetely dont think he's the next MJ. But i do think he will eventually be better then Kobe. Ive always thought Lebron was more of a Magic Johnson kinda player, then Jordan anyways.
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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Magic was the MVP of the Finals at his age playing Center vs the Celtics. And the previous year he won the NCAA alone! To compare the two is disrespectful for my fav player ever. Maybe in the future. Maybe. But i still remember that no-look-pass the fat ass Magic did when he returned playing with the Lakers. That move alone shits on the whole LeBron career. Please!
eS El Duque:
--- Quote from: Antonio on April 18, 2005, 07:34:35 AM ---
He aint God.
But Reggie Miller about to retire is still better than him in my book.
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No one said he's God...
Well, Reggie is a vet..has proved himself in the finals minutes over and over agian...Lebron has done many times this season aswell, if he scored that last 3 pointer in the final seconds of the Pistons game, this thread would'nt have been made ;)
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