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Nation of Islam = thugs with a "cause"?
J Bananas:
Are they aware that they aren't even close to being real muslims? If so, why do they continue to devote themselves to an institution they know isn't based on real values? It seems like the Nation of Islam is just a last resort for burned out thugs that don't have any other choices. Here in Oakland, the NOI has a little setup on the corner of 59th st and San Pablo and those fools post up like 30 deep on the block at night being a "neighborhood watch" or whatever. In reality they don't do shit cuz people sell drugs on the next corner over and all types of fucked up shit happens and they dont do a thing about it. I also have experienced racism at their hands and was ridiculed simply for being on their block. Is the NOI really just a group of thugs in sheeps clothing or do they have any legitimate beliefs and activities? Anyone who knows somebody in the NOI or have encountered them themselves have any info on what these guys are about?
And I'm talking about the Nation of Islam, not muslims of middle eastern descent or white sympathizers. I get their deal.
Don Seer:
are they NOI or FOI?
7even:
it's simply an attempt to be racist with a value-mask
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: 7even the Annoyed One on April 25, 2005, 11:30:27 AM ---it's simply an attempt to be racist with a value-mask
--- End quote ---
^^^^^You simply can't sum up a movement as prolific as the Nation of Islam has been, in just 10 words of little thought!
I'm not saying you have to agree with their message (although I doubt you even posess even rudimentary knowledge of their message anyway)..... but when a little black man who can't even speak English with proper grammer was able to stand up in an audotorium (in the 60's) with nearly 1,000,000 first generation (black-Muslims) chanting "All Praise to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad", and this is achieved in just a few decades....... there is obviously much more at play then just simply "racism with a value mask!"
The fact that they don't consider the stories of Fard Muhammad (founder of Nation of Islam, was actually a light skinned sympathizer of the African American struggle, told his followers he was from Mekkah but historians believe he was from India or Palestine, or wherever, his story is shrouded in mystery)... the biography of Elijah Muhammad (leader of Nation of Islam when it was at it's hieght).... or the struggle of Malcolm X (Nation of Islam minister who later converted to true Islam upon his Hajj to Mekkah)...... The fact that they don't teach this in American History classes all over college campuses and highschools, just proves that they aren't teaching any real American history! The stories of these men tell of authentic American history better than anything I ever read in school!
Shallow:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're right he can't just say it was racist, it was also blasphemous. That fuck head Elijah told his idiot followers that he was the one solid connection with God, on Earth. That he was in fact a prophet. Now even your Muslim teachings tell you that that is a bunch of shit.
P.S. The Nazi's were also prolific, it doesn't mean we owe them enough respect to put more thought into our generalizations. (and why haven't you responeded to the White Supremacy thread? I'm still waiting to be converted).
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