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Nation of Islam = thugs with a "cause"?
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 25, 2005, 02:59:09 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're right he can't just say it was racist, it was also blasphemous. That fuck head Elijah told his idiot followers that he was the one solid connection with God, on Earth. That he was in fact a prophet. Now even your Muslim teachings tell you that that is a bunch of shit.
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Ofcourse being an orthodox Muslim (and a white one for that matter) I strongly disagree with the teachings of Elijah Muhammad. However, I do not fail to recognize the historical and racial conditions that led to the rise of the Nation, nor do I fail to realize the deeper implications of the movement, and their role in erasing the slave mentality amongst their followers. They connnected African American's with their long lost brothers of the African and Eastern world and taught them to love and respect themselves.
rafsta:
anyone here watch the simpsons ? this reminds me of the vigilante group homer started up when the cat burgular was in town...
J Bananas:
--- Quote ---anyone here watch the simpsons ? this reminds me of the vigilante group homer started up when the cat burgular was in town...
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LOL
Whenever they stand and watch the block at night there's always two or three guys with earpieces on the corners like theyre secret service.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Abdul Infinite aka Ibn Battuta on April 25, 2005, 03:05:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 25, 2005, 02:59:09 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're right he can't just say it was racist, it was also blasphemous. That fuck head Elijah told his idiot followers that he was the one solid connection with God, on Earth. That he was in fact a prophet. Now even your Muslim teachings tell you that that is a bunch of shit.
--- End quote ---
Ofcourse being an orthodox Muslim (and a white one for that matter) I strongly disagree with the teachings of Elijah Muhammad. However, I do not fail to recognize the historical and racial conditions that led to the rise of the Nation, nor do I fail to realize the deeper implications of the movement, and their role in erasing the slave mentality amongst their followers. They connnected African American's with their long lost brothers of the African and Eastern world and taught them to love and respect themselves.
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What I never got about African Unity is how do you know you even came from the same part of Africa, or that you weren't each part of civilizations that were at war with each other. If Black or Chinese people took over the world and I was enslaved and sent in the fields to work and I came across another man with Eurpean descent, should I embrace him just because he's from Europe? What if he's from German descent and an aryan. Aryan German's were responsible for the mass killing of a whole lot of Greek's during WW2, and this was after Greece had been taken over by Germany. Is there really a historical connection between me and him. Now I would accpet him as my brother, but that's because we're both human, not because we both have the same skin colour or are both from the same continent. If I needed that kind of connection I'd be a lesser human being.
7even:
Im not saying that racist people cannot have any qualities. You can be a great soccer player or really good at maths, and still be racist. Therefore, I didnt imply that they didnt achieve anything - in fact, most things are achieved by uniting people - which is, unfortunately, more often than not done through racism or nationalism. Hitler achieved a lot as well. How the hell does that make him less of an antisemitic asshole? Same goes for Elijah Muhammad. Anyway, I might be wrong, but weren't those racist blacks responsible for the deaths of 2 of the most important men in black history?
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