Author Topic: Come up with actual good reasons on why Nash was deserving of the MVP  (Read 884 times)

7even

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watch nash' game today and watch duncan's last game, you know why nash is mvp and duncan is not. watch heat playing without shaq you know why shaq is not. haters.
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watch nash' game today and watch duncan's last game, you know why nash is mvp and duncan is not. watch heat playing without shaq you know why shaq is not. haters.

Duncan plays within the offense probably better then any superstar in the league. And he still puts up his consistent numbers every game. Even the last game against Seattle. His shooting was off, and still manage to put up his usual numbers cus he;s smart enough to find other ways to make him, and his teammates better. He got to the line and scored, when his shot wasnt going down. He's probably the smartest post player in the last 15 yrs in this leagie. He knows how to make u either foul him, or give up and easy shot. Nash is a good player, no doubt....but in NO way is he the MVP lol. Like i said before, Nash was nobody on a team as good as Dallas. Now, because he's on a team that fits damn near ANY point guards style he looks amazing. Put Nash on the Hawks, and he wont even make the all star team. Put Duncan, Iverson, KG.....etc....on ANY team, and theyd still be the best players in the league. This point is pretty obvious. If u know basketball, then u get it. If not...then youre arguing for Nash lol
 

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You're speaking non-sense man...I'm pretty sure Chucky Atkins wouldn't be shit if he was the starting point guard for the Suns this year...Nash is an excellent player, get over it...PeACe
 

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You're speaking non-sense man...I'm pretty sure Chucky Atkins wouldn't be shit if he was the starting point guard for the Suns this year...Nash is an excellent player, get over it...PeACe

he's good, i didnt argue that. But all of a sudden, he's the most valuable player in the league when he hasnt been shit the rest of his career? That doesnt seem odd to u? The best players are good year in and year out. Even when their teams suck, theyre good. Even if they go to a shitty team, theyre still good. Shit, u know i dont like Kobe too much...but his year IMO was better then Nash too, and he didnt have a great year this year. Id put at least 3 players above Nash and probably more. I dont think its a race thing at all, but i do kinda think its an image thing. The press shouldnt be involved in any of this shit, but it is. Nash is a good image for the league. he's a family man, he's a passer before scorer, and he plays on a team that is exciting to watch. Did stockton ever win MVP? No...and his worst year was better then Nash's 2004-2005 season, he just played on the Jazz lol. What do u think would happen if u switched Iverson and Nash with eachother? Imagine how SHITTY Philly would be lol. I dunno, he's good....but MVP of the NBA? Whatta joke...
 

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  Most Valueble=Best Player  There is no way around it.  .  The development of Stoudamire is natural so this was his first year of superstar status that you will see with Amare for years to come.  Is it Garnett's fault that he was with a bad team?  Duncans injury but still had an amaazing and better year than Nash, Dirk(there goes the its cuz of the white guy arguement out the window).  All of these players were better than Nash. 

You can not replace Nash with Atkins.  You have to replace nash with somebody that posted up similiar numbers to him How about Luke Ridnour? Jason Kidd?  not Atkinds
 

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  Most Valueble=Best Player  There is no way around it.  .  The development of Stoudamire is natural so this was his first year of superstar status that you will see with Amare for years to come.  Is it Garnett's fault that he was with a bad team?  Duncans injury but still had an amaazing and better year than Nash, Dirk(there goes the its cuz of the white guy arguement out the window).  All of these players were better than Nash. 

You can not replace Nash with Atkins.  You have to replace nash with somebody that posted up similiar numbers to him How about Luke Ridnour? Jason Kidd?  not Atkinds


So you think Luke Ridnour would be MVP if he was playing for the Suns? LMAO, come on now...I know that you know better than that.
 

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thats not even close to what i said.

You said "I'm pretty sure Chucky Atkins wouldn't be shit if he was the starting point guard for the Suns this year"

and i replied with "You have to replace nash with somebody that posted up similiar numbers to him How about Luke Ridnour? Jason Kidd?  not Atkinds"


Nash was not the best player in the NBA.  You cant argue that.  50 years from now people are going to be saying "What in the world were they thinking...Nash got the MVP over Duncan? Garnett? Shaq? Dirk? Even fucking Stoudamire?!"
 

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thats not even close to what i said.

You said "I'm pretty sure Chucky Atkins wouldn't be shit if he was the starting point guard for the Suns this year"

and i replied with "You have to replace nash with somebody that posted up similiar numbers to him How about Luke Ridnour? Jason Kidd?  not Atkinds"


Nash was not the best player in the NBA.  You cant argue that.  50 years from now people are going to be saying "What in the world were they thinking...Nash got the MVP over Duncan? Garnett? Shaq? Dirk? Even fucking Stoudamire?!"


LMAO@saying that Luke Ridnour posts up similar numbers to Steve Nash...Man, you don't know your shit...I once thought you did, but you don't...Steve Nash is the leader of his team...Steve Nash plays on one of the NBA's better teams...That makes Steve Nash one of the better players in the NBA...I don't know how you don't see him as an MVP contender, what he did for the Suns was awesome...He was posting up more assists than I've seen done in a while, and on top of that, he could score as well (The playoffs have been proof)...His smarts is what makes him such a good player...Even I'm willing to admit that he played a better season than Kobe, and who woulda' ever thought I would say something against Kobe while ToNe was doing the opposite...I don't like Steve Nash, he's not one of my favorite players...But I know the game of basketball, and I know he was well deserving of the MVP...Hell, if Garnett would have gotten the MVP this season, it would definitely cause a lot more controversey...And if Shaq got the MVP while playing the worst season of his career, it would be a clear indication that the NBA is on a decline...Duncan could have gotten the MVP, but how many times does the man need it?...Dirk? Mavs vs. Suns is all I have to say...Stoudamire? I like Stoudamire more than I like Nash, but it's so obvious that Nash is more valuable to the Suns...He's the teams backbone...He's an excellent player, end of story...Nash is an overall better player than Stockton, and Nash's season this year was better than any of Stockton's seasons...You guys must be blind...Why would Nash win it if he wasn't that good? Ya'll simply don't know your shit...
 

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Luke Ridnour's Assist ratio was 33.5
Nash's Assist Ratio was 41.6

As a PG they were close.  Of course nash was better but i think if Ridnour or Kidd would be on the Suns they would still be in the same spot they are in right now.  Also, im not saying Nash wasnt a MVP candidate but just that he didnt deserve it it.  And it shouldnt matter if Duncan has one already because no matter what it should go to the best player.  And you cant take a series to show who was the MVP of the season such a small sample size
 

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Luke Ridnour's Assist ratio was 33.5
Nash's Assist Ratio was 41.6

As a PG they were close.  Of course nash was better but i think if Ridnour or Kidd would be on the Suns they would still be in the same spot they are in right now.  Also, im not saying Nash wasnt a MVP candidate but just that he didnt deserve it it.  And it shouldnt matter if Duncan has one already because no matter what it should go to the best player.  And you cant take a series to show who was the MVP of the season such a small sample size


STFU with the ratios...Luke Ridnour averaged 5.9 assists while Steve Nash averaged 11.5...Yes, that's right, Ridnour averaged less assists than Kobe Bryant. How are you comparing him to Steve Nash in terms of point guards? Damn man, step up your b-ball knowledge...Luke Ridnour on the Suns would mean Spurs vs Mavs for the Western Conference Finals...PeACe
 

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ill stick with my ratios and more detailed stats.  You dont need to insult me for just seeing it from another POV do you?  The numbers that i follow now show a better representation for players, i could use more in detailed stats but nobody in the world would know what the fuck im talking about.  The regular numbers are just too raw to represent the players value.  It doesnt take into consideration the players around them, minutes played, and a whole lot of shit.
 

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ill stick with my ratios and more detailed stats.  You dont need to insult me for just seeing it from another POV do you?  The numbers that i follow now show a better representation for players, i could use more in detailed stats but nobody in the world would know what the fuck im talking about.  The regular numbers are just too raw to represent the players value.  It doesnt take into consideration the players around them, minutes played, and a whole lot of shit.


LOL...Honestly, I have nothing against you nor your opinion...I just think that it's dumb for you to believe Luke Ridnour and Steve Nash are comparable, but my bad if it seems like I had been insulting you...I just need to mellow out a little, but I realize that it's just your opinion, and though it may sound dumb to me, who's to say that it is?...I just hope you see that less people will agree with you, because the average basketball fan sees Nash as an excellent player...You can keep adjusting your numbers, but it won't change shit, because the majority of analysts and basketball heads think Nash is a valuable artribute to the NBA...PeACe
 

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Well again im not saying Nash is worthless just not the best player in the NBA. thats all
 

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Get the fuck over this all ready!!!!! The right guy got the MVP. The award is for the player who is most valueable to his team, and no one was more valueable to his team than Steve Nash was to the Suns. It's not like this has been is only good season, the guy's been an all-star before with Dallas.

Nash deserved the award this season because he was the most valueable player and there are no agruements to prove otherwise.


He won it, he deserved it now shut the fuck up and get over it!!!!