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Fact or Fiction?Who Keeps Stealing From The Bay Area
Fact or Fiction?
Who Keeps Stealing From
The Bay Area
by - T-Kash
7/19/02 9:53:54 AM
It's no question that the hip hop community is one of emmulation and recycling,both musically and verbally.And for the most part, the game is good for paying respect and homage to the originators of the concepts and cultures from which it picks and pulls from,for whatever reason each induvidual artist/producer may have.For example,the now defunct group The Lench Mob with the 1993 track "Guerillas ain't Gangstas",quoting Bay Area MOBB music legend Spice 1's trademark ,"and if you ever disrespect me I'ma bank ya!" they also said peace to Spice,which gave the Bay Area proper recognition for our culture and it's contribution to the rest of the hip hop world.


TIMES HAVE DEFINITLEY CHANGED SINCE THEN
.

Today, the Bay Area sets an abundance of trends and gets little if not any recognition for the contributions we have given to the game.Equally important is the blaitant "jacking" of our slang and production by both underground and mainstream artists.Last and most important,the lack of truthfulness behind the origin of these contributions when explained by the artists that pick and pull at the Bay Area's MOBB music culture. With that being said,I figured that we play a little game of "FACT OR FICTION", just to make my point more clearer.


FACT OR FICTION?:

SNOOP DOGG IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE TERMS
"FA SHIZZLE" "PLEASE BELEIVE IT" AND "NEPHEW"!

FICTION:The term "FA SHIZZLE" is actually just another way to say "FA SHEEZY",which was invented by Oakland's 3x KRAZY,and quoted by E-40 on his 1996 release,"THE HALL OF GAME".The song was called "RECORD HATERS" where E-"FEEZY" stated," My patna's 3x krazy laced me, taught me how to say FA SHEEZY".

SNOOP DOGG was first noticed saying "FA SHIZZLE MY NIZZLE" on the beginning of his video for "SNOOP DOGG",off "THE LAST MEAL" which was released in late 2000/early 2001. "PLEASE BELEIVE IT" and "NEPHEW" originated on the releases by Vallejo's MAC SHAWN "MUSIC FO THE MOBB" and "MIND OF A PIMP,HEART OF A GANGSTA" by MAC DRE in 1999.The term "NEPHEW" was a penitentary term that bled over into the Bay Area streets and from the streets to the rap game in 1994 with the release "STRAIGHT GAME" by Vallejo's YOUNG D BOYZ,and various projects from former DEF JAM artist,Oakland's RICHIE RICH.

FACT OR FICTION?:

JAY-Z STARTED FOUNDED THE TERM
"PARKING LOT PIMPING",AND HIS LABELMATE CAMRON STARTED THE TERM "OH-BOY"!



FICTION: The term "Parking Lot Pimpin'" was a Bay Area way of saying you couldn't get up in the club for what ever reason and you were going to hang in the parking lot outside the club.This was first put on the map by Hayward Cali's DEN GEE, known then as the 187 FAC.Their 1997 release "FAC NOT FICTION" contained the same titled track as JIG'S, but the hook was not as commercial.As for Cam and "OH-BOY",that was also a Bay Area term that was being said on the streets and bled over into the MOBB music by 1998 being heard on various projects,but the history was documented on the 1999 release by San Francisco's DON CISCO,who's album was titled "OH-BOY".JIG's release hit in 2000 and CAM'S can be heard on almost every top 40 station as you read this now.


FACT OR FICTION?:

ARTIST LIKE USHER, P-DIDDY, NORE, SNOOP DOGG AND NUMEROUS OTHERS
WERE THE FIRST TO SHOW US HOW TO POP COLLARS..



FICTION:All one has to do is go back to the 1994-95 release of San Francisco's Tha Network which featured Messy Marv and San Quinn. There you will hear the hit song 'Pop Yo' Collars' which sampled the song 'Single Life' by Cameo. Since then there have been way too many Bay Area songs hawking the 'Pop Yo Collar' theme to keep count. Everyone from MC Hammer to E-40 have put out 'Popping Collar songs. In fact Hammer released a video a couple of years ago that highlighted all the ways one can 'pop collars'. The song was featured at the end of his recent VHI Special.

and that's REALTALK.

T-K.A.S.H

[Nima - Dubcnn.com]

now THATS the real.peace

[=[Euthanasia]=]

Anybody who likes and knows their westcoast hip-hop knows pretty much all that, it's just the fans that don't necesserily know what the bay area is, like the big eastcoast fans etc. You can't really blame them though, it's like saying people from foreign countrys can't use English because they didn't invent it. BUT people who use the phrases etc should show props, especially people like Jay-Z, Cam'ron, Puffy etc, when it comes to Snoop he's a westcoast artist, he should show more props but it's not as if he's saying he invented those phrases or whatever, and if people are saying he did then that's their mistake for not knowing about the history of the phrases.

[Gangsta_T]

Bay Area homies are OGs in hellalotta ways !

peace
GT

[Lil Jay]

>= link=board=general;num=1027332376;start=0#2 date=07/22/02 at 05:41:15]Snoop should show more props but it's not as if he's saying he invented those phrases or whatever, and if people are saying he did then that's their mistake for not knowing about the history of the phrases.

Yea thats the point, I agree, cause Snoop should give them props. but he doesnt act like he invented those therms so I dont see a problem. I mean if people from the bay invented these therms, does it mean that other rappers cant use them? if thats the case, I could name you a list of therms with names of rappers who bit 2pacs slang

[Don Seer]

this shit cracks me up...... you know what

THIS ARTICLE IS BITTEN!

its from www.daveyd.com

http://www.daveyd.com/FullArticles/articleN1155.asp




just like to add something..... people been saying snoop bit that 'izzle' shit too........ but he was doing it on the intro to the chronic...

[Nima - Dubcnn.com]

this shit cracks me up...... you know what

THIS ARTICLE IS BITTEN!

its from www.daveyd.com

http://www.daveyd.com/FullArticles/articleN1155.asp




just like to add something..... people been saying snoop bit that 'izzle' shit too........ but he was doing it on the intro to the chronic...

not only in the intro!

[S.G.V.]

ive been saying this for so long...everyone bites the bay...they get biten but not the credit...which is bullshit...

[maximilian2k2]

yo, you forgot about one of the most obvious ones of all............the term "holla at me", or just "holla" originated from the streets of oakland mid 90's. every oak town playa i knew from even 96'-99 constantly said "holla", so give props for that as well.

[TOOTHBRUSH]

people been saying snoop bit that 'izzle' shit too........ but he was doing it on the intro to the chronic...

exactly snoop has been usin the zz's in his rap since he came out he was usin it in doggystyle too sayin rizzo and all that shit...........the other thing is snoop gets jacked from alot of phrases and shit too

[ZILLA THA GOODFELLA]

WORD....dats a good read

Shit, I remember like a year and half ago when I came to this forum, tha first posts were me arguing wit BigJake about everybody bitin tha bay lolz....

but Yea, Dats Real Talk....Aint no body complainin in tha bay about Snoop using those bay phrases, tha problem is that KNOW that they come from tha bay....I mean tha only thing peeps is pissed about is tha fact that theres all these people in NY and even LA thinkin that shits Snoops or whoevers....E40 waz sayin this shit on tha radio tha otha day...."U can use our slangs but RECOGNIZE who's it is, tha foundation"....

[Maestro Minded]

this shit cracks me up...... you know what

THIS ARTICLE IS BITTEN!

its from www.daveyd.com

http://www.daveyd.com/FullArticles/articleN1155.asp




just like to add something..... people been saying snoop bit that 'izzle' shit too........ but he was doing it on the intro to the chronic...

yeah.. i was about to say that


and im not sure, but i think that shit started wíth Bootsy Collins... so neither snoop or bay area is the inventor

[Big BpG]

Stupid ... people who get offended by this are stupid... who cares who says what... it doesn't matter...

-Big BpG

[the408figga]

thats real talk slugger! yall should soak up that game right there!!

[Don_Juan]

That's a way 2 long post!