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how many of you would try to use the whole "it's because im black isnt it" line to get out of trouble ? (in a serious situation)
Quote from: Captain on June 27, 2005, 04:58:46 PMhow many of you would try to use the whole "it's because im black isnt it" line to get out of trouble ? (in a serious situation) I say that a lot when I get in trouble.
i'm a black man trapped in a white man's body
Quote from: Mauzip on June 27, 2005, 05:03:35 PMi'm a black man trapped in a white man's body no you want a black man inside your white body....and his name is TQ
what the fuck is reverse racism
I was just talking about this with some friends the other day.I have a friend who has a couple kids and I'm trying to tell him that if he tells them the world will be against them because they're black when they're young it will most likely have a terrible affect on how they grow up. You tell a kid that society hates you because it's racist then every time a non black does anything negative it's racism to them. They're going to go through childhood thinking every non black teacher that sends them to the office or every non black citizen that gives them a hard time it's because of racism.Is there racism? Of course, but every time a white does something to a black it isn't always racist. Some people are just assholes in general. Some people also may be looking out for your best interest by using tough love, but if you confuse tough love with racism than you'll never learn the right messages.I have friends that do the stupidest things get in shit for it and then say it's because they were black. A know a guy that wasn't allowed to run for class president because he was a trouble case from day one, skipped class on a reg, told teachers to go suck themselves, had been in too many fights to count, suspended multiple times, and expelled in middle school, but according to him it was because he was black.If I take a pole of all my black friends and separate the ones with that blame racist whites for their misfortunes with the ones that don't, 99% of the ones on the racism side have next to no promise in their future and 99% of the other side a good upstanding human beings that are either going places or are places.Whether society is racist or not is not the issue. The point is if you think the world is against you because you're black, or whatever colour, and you live by that philosophy you set yourself up for failure because you give yourself an excuse for every bad thing you do.
the thing i see, is that its hard for other races to really speak on this stuff. Its basically impossible to know how it feels to be another race, and impossible to REALLY see things from their point of view. Its kind of like, if your mother died tomorrow and mine was still here. And you dealt with your pain in a certain way, and i tried to give u advice on how to deal with it. You wouldnt necessarily respect my opinion cus you would know that i know nothing about how it feels to be in your shoes. Like u said, its a fact....there is racism in this country. And its worse then most white people WANT to believe. Like i said, when u dont experience it...you dont notice it. And yeah, i would imagine that a lot of black folks have a bit of a chip on their shoulders about racism, and who wouldnt? Obviously there's all types of people (in every race). So you always have certain people who point the finger for EVERYthing. Just like a white person who might bring about some frivoulous law suit for something that was their own fault. Just like a white person who might blame the countries economy problems on illegal immigrants....etc. What people have to understand is that you have NO idea what its like to live in another persons shoes. We are all equal, but not all the same. And if our roles were reversed...we'd all act the same way other races act based on their experiences. Its probably a hard line to define between "not pointing the finger for racism" and "not taking any racism from anyone".
Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on June 29, 2005, 01:35:43 AMthe thing i see, is that its hard for other races to really speak on this stuff. Its basically impossible to know how it feels to be another race, and impossible to REALLY see things from their point of view. Its kind of like, if your mother died tomorrow and mine was still here. And you dealt with your pain in a certain way, and i tried to give u advice on how to deal with it. You wouldnt necessarily respect my opinion cus you would know that i know nothing about how it feels to be in your shoes. Like u said, its a fact....there is racism in this country. And its worse then most white people WANT to believe. Like i said, when u dont experience it...you dont notice it. And yeah, i would imagine that a lot of black folks have a bit of a chip on their shoulders about racism, and who wouldnt? Obviously there's all types of people (in every race). So you always have certain people who point the finger for EVERYthing. Just like a white person who might bring about some frivoulous law suit for something that was their own fault. Just like a white person who might blame the countries economy problems on illegal immigrants....etc. What people have to understand is that you have NO idea what its like to live in another persons shoes. We are all equal, but not all the same. And if our roles were reversed...we'd all act the same way other races act based on their experiences. Its probably a hard line to define between "not pointing the finger for racism" and "not taking any racism from anyone".To me, all of that sounds like excuses. I know a few black people that got ahead in life just because they are black. One kid I know works at a bank, but about 4 years ago, he robbed two girls at gunpoint right in front of a bank. He is going to a prestigious college and he is working on a couple different political campaigns. He got the job because of the "equal opportunity" deal, he got in to the college because of affirmative action, and he is the token black guy to these people he is campaigning for. I'm not knocking him though. He is a smart kid, but he got a lot of stuff handed to him just because the color of his skin. There are so many laws in place that minorities can take advantage of and get ahead in life, I don't see what the problem is. If you are making 100G's a year, who cares what someone says to you? A couple of my black friends have also told me about a few incidences where people said something that could be taken as racist, my friends didn't even make the connection, but the people start apologizing like crazy. Maybe the Twin Cities is different, but I think so many white people are so afraid to be called racist, the catch themselves quicker than the minorities.You are right about one thing though. I haven't experienced it from a black person's point of view. Maybe it's different, but from what I've heard, it seems like a couple black people are ruining it for everyone else trying to point out racist stuff too much. I believe that if people stopped worrying about what unimportant people thought of them and put this racist stuff on the backburner, a lot of problems would just go away. If everyone didn't let comments bother them, where's the power? Stereotypes only exist because people let them. The kid who I was talking about earlier, his mom is from Cabrini Greens, but she works 3 jobs, and she is a decent person. As far as I'm concerned, her skin could be blue, the respect is still there. Opporunity is color blind with hard work. She wanted her kids to grow up safe, so she worked more and bought a house in the suburbs. And you see the chain reaction, right? She got to the suburbs, now her son is a sophmore in a good college working 40 hours a week at a bank. That isn't very stereotypical. It sounds more like the American Dream. Everyone wants that. That isn't just a white thing.