JBL vs. Blue Meanie Incident

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The JBL - Blue Meanie ECW controversy
By David Agostino
June 19, 2005

ECW’s One Night Stand may have ended two weeks ago, but what took place in the middle of the ring during the successful pay-per-view’s closing moments is still quite a source of controversy.

During the wild brawl that closed the show, former ECW wrestler The Blue Meanie and SmackDown! Superstar JBL appeared to trade some heavy blows, with the 6-foot-6 JBL seemingly getting the better of the exchange.

Photos and witnesses later confirmed that JBL did a fair amount of damage to The Blue Meanie’s face, even opening up some stitches he had received just a day earlier.

The incident has since been one of the hot-button topics making the rounds on the Internet. WWE.com was able to track down JBL, Meanie and Paul Heyman to talk about the bizarre events of that night.

Outside sources have tried to interview JBL, but they declined after being asked to record the conversation. As a result, WWE.com has the first words from JBL on this topic.

“People don’t know my side of the story, so I’m glad WWE.com has given me a chance,” JBL said. “But I’m not sure who’ll believe me anyway. I’m really surprised at all the backlash and I wish I was never associated with this and that it never happened.”

Many Internet reports have indicated that JBL and Blue Meanie had some previous run-ins during Meanie’s stay with the company in 1998, 1999 and part of 2000, and that those problems are the genesis of the ECW incident.

“The incident with Meanie had nothing to do with any old heat, I don’t even know the guy,” JBL said. “I understand he worked here, but I don’t even remember working with him. I couldn’t care less about the fat little kid. “

Meanie, who worked with WWE from October 1998 to June 2000, finds it almost impossible that JBL doesn’t recall his time there.

“That’s BS, he remembers me,” Meanie said when reached at home by WWE.com. “From my first day to my last, JBL never liked me. Maybe it was because I wasn’t an All-American football player or because my body wasn’t chiseled from granite, but he had it in for me.

“I enjoyed my time at WWE, I loved the work and I got to see the world,” Meanie continued. “I liked everything about it except JBL. When I was fired I was actually happy I wouldn’t have to see him anymore, that’s how depressed he had me.”

Here’s JBL’s version of the final moments of the pay-per-view:

“Before the brawl at the end of the pay-per-view, he starts cutting a shoot promo on me, saying I’m the reason he got fired and the only reason I got where I am is because I CENSORED Vince McMahon’s CENSORED. I was incredulous,” JBL said. “I thought there’s no way he could really mean this. So I got to work with him at the end, and here we are trying to give the fans a great finish when we begin to lock horns in the melee. But he’s basically not even acknowledging my presence. Now I might have caught him snug with a shot, but then he starts throwing back heavy punches, including a body shot. So make no mistake, I club him back to make sure he knows I’m not playing, and I think I got him with a shot over the eye and one near the forehead and apparently opened him up a little.”

“Backstage I asked him if he wanted to finish it right then and there,” JBL continued. “He told me it’s all a show and that he didn’t want to fight. And he pretty much ran off.”

Meanie, as you might expect, had a much different view of what transpired.

“I was jaw-jacking with everyone, that was the whole point,” Meanie said. “The tape doesn’t lie. He went right for me and hit me when I wasn’t even looking. He even tried to pull my shirt over my face and have one of those hockey fights. He wanted a receipt for the things I’ve said about him.

Meanie is referring to old interviews on various Internet sites that quote Meanie calling JBL a “bully.”

“I tried to fend him off the best that I could, but at that point, I was also trying to protect the 14 staples I had in the back of my head from the night before,” Meanie added. “He’s a real big guy and there’s only so much I was able to do.”

JBL claims any accusations The Blue Meanie has made regarding JBL sabotaging his job with WWE are ludicrous.

“Apparently he blames me for getting him fired here,” JBL said. “I don’t have that kind of power, and even if I did, I wouldn’t use it on him. I really couldn’t give two sh**s about this guy. I don’t care if he ever wrestles again and I don’t care if he becomes a World Champion. Beating up the Blue Meanie doesn’t benefit me in any way. It just makes me look like a complete a**hole to attack this kid.”

For his part, Meanie is also trying to put the incident behind him.

“To me, it’s just really sad. JBL is supposed to be one of the top guys,” Meanie said. “He’s supposed to lead by example, not by fear.”

ECW head Paul Heyman, who you might remember had some harsh words himself for JBL during One Night Stand, certainly isn’t surprised at the amount of attention the incident as drawn over the past week.

“I'm not surprised the JBL-Blue Meanie incident is still generating so much buzz,” Heyman told WWE.com. “The top star on SmackDown!, a former WWE Champion, hit ECW's court jester with his best shots and couldn't knock him out? This is like The Sandman pounding on Howard Finkel and Howard walking away with some bumps and bruises.”

Furthermore, Heyman wouldn’t mind seeing both men settle their differences in the ring. In fact, Heyman wonders what WWE brass is waiting for?

“It's pretty amusing the SmackDown! brain trust hasn't capitalized on the interest in JBL and The Meanie and begged Vince McMahon to allow this match to take place on TV or pay-per-view,” Heyman said. “If they don't have the vision, ECW certainly does, and I'd welcome that match on any platform ECW is afforded. I even propose we allow the two to fight in the streets of New York City and broadcast on ECW.com!  After failing to silence his harshest critic, I think it's on JBL to prove if there's anything but bullsh** behind the Wrath of the Wrestling God.”

[AlerG]

does anyone care about JBL?

peace.

[Trauma-san]

Not really, but I don't blame him for beating the shit out of the blue meanie. 

[eS El Duque]

Not really, but I don't blame him for beating the shit out of the blue meanie. 

lol ya

[HammerTime]

Once again JBL shows what an ass he is...

[Sikotic™]

I don't think it's right what Bradshaw did, but Blue Meanie is being a bitch about the whole situation. If you get your ass beat, you don't complain and cry about. He's making a fag out of himself.

[Trauma-san]

^ Plus, it's becoming more and more obvious that JBL had every reason to whip his ass in the first place.  First it was "He attacked me for no reason!" then it was "Yeah, I said something to him backstage but it was in character after the fight" then it was "Yeah, I said something to him in the ring before he hit me but it was just for show" then it was "Yeah, I've talked shit about him on message boards for years.... but yet he shouldn't have hit me"

Pretty soon we'll be down to

"Yeah, I raped his mom before the show, but he shouldn't have hit me"

[TheDeli]

JBL is an arsehole who shouldn't be in the postion that he's in

On the DVD thee is an alternate commentry & the following has been taken from it

Credit: Mike Johnson from PWInsider.Com

On the ECW “One Night Stand” DVD, one of the featured extras is an “alternative commentary” audio track taped live at the show with commentary from John Bradshaw Layfield as he watched the event from the one of the balconies of the Hammerstein Ballroom.

Bradshaw makes a number of negative remarks and comments about the ECW guys including Mike Awesome (”When he was here, the boys said he sucked but I said he wasn’t that good.”), Lance Storm (”Couldn’t fill an arena if you gave away free beer with free tickets”) and Tommy Dreamer (”This is the main event?”) Bradshaw also mocks Lance Storm’s retirement, calling him “The most boring man on the planet…They say he’s retiring today…If a tree falls in a forest, no one cares.”

The most intriguing part of the commentary are Bradshaw’s comments from the point The Blue World Order came to the ring prior to the main event, especially in light of the incident with the Blue Meanie that was soon to follow.

It’s interesting to note that Bradshaw makes the declaration “I’m drunk” just before Tommy Dreamer makes his way to the ring. From the point the Blue World Order come out, here is a complete transcription of Bradshaw’s comments:

[BWO walks to the ring] “And you wonder why they went out of business?”
[Blue Meanie gets on the turnbuckle] “Why don’t you look up here you fat f**k with your blue hair? Go mind your porn star wife. That looks like a monkey screwing a basketball, him getting up there. Go give your body to science fiction you fat rolypoly (inaudible)…”
[BWO poses in the ring] “He looks like a blue-haired, 800 pound Abraham Lincoln.”
[Stevie Richard cutting promo in the ring] “Somebody write him a promo? Get to the point. The point. Go Home Now.”
[Steviekick on Sandman] Orlando Jordan says, “He missed the kick.” Bradshaw responds, “No wonder he should have gotten fired from us.”

The brawl prior to the main event featuring the Dudley Boyz, Kid Kash, Axl Rotten, Balls Mahoney, Sandman, the BWO, and Tommy Dreamer begins, preventing any further comment. As the main event continues, Bradshaw asks, “Are we out of beer? I need to be drunk for this one.”

There was no audio output during the show closing brawl, either because his mic was turned off or the audio could have been possibly removed in post production. So there was nothing to note regarding the incident with The Blue Meanie and Bradshaw. The brawl is seen with the only audio being heard being the crowd reaction, which makes it easier to pay closer attention to the actual Meanie-JBL incident.

However, his disrespectful comments were probably made ‘in-character’ however in light of recent happenings, it does make you wonder.


Now they may be in character but his comments sound like the comments in his interview to WWE.com

Sack JBL 

[Trauma-san]

You guys are fucking idiots.  He's SUPPOSED to say shit like that, what you think he's supposed to sit up there when his character has all this hostility towards ECW, and be a nice guy and compliment the Blue Meanie's belly shirt?  How fucking pathetically stupid are you?  It's a WORK.   The interview on WWE's website isn't his real thoughts either, it's A WORK.  WWE.COM is OWNED by Vince McMahon, why do I have to say shit like this outloud?  WRESTLING IS FAKE.   I know your grandma probably told you that when you were 5 (mine did) but come on man?  Some Guys play good guys, some guys play bad guys, JBL is playing a bad guy!  DUH!

[Sikotic™]

it's A WORK.

It's more than obvious.

The commentary is some funny shit too by the way. I don't really like JBL but....

JBL>>>>>>Blue Meanie

[Bramsterdam (see ya)]

^everyone else >> JBL >> blue meanie

[TheDeli]

, it's A WORK. WWE.COM is OWNED by Vince McMahon, why do I have to say shit like this outloud? WRESTLING IS FAKE.

is it really? 

Yeah its a work which is why when people shoot on each other it gathers interest.  JBL has done this before & he's came of 2nd best before, yeah Blue Meanie sucks and deserves to be slapped around, but JBL knows that meanie ain't a tough guy & that he'd get away with it, if he tried to slap around some other ECW guys he wouldn't have been so lucky he would have got a slapping himself, even if he tried it on with someone that Vince is a fan of, the WWE may even punish him in some sort of way, JBL thinks that he can't be touched he was let off when he did a Nazi salute & goose stepped around the ring in Berlin, so he thinks that he's the HHH of Smackdown

[Trauma-san]

^ Or, he just thinks Blue Meanie is a clown, like the rest of the world.  Calm the hell down.  Maybe he doesn't like the Blue Meanine, and considering the sport, how can you possibly expect any different?  You applaud when these guys get in there and beat the shit out of somebody, but when someone does it for real, you're pissed?

YOU ARE A PUSSY! 

[TheDeli]

You applaud when these guys get in there and beat the shit out of somebody, but when someone does it for real, you're pissed?

That ain't what is getting said, imo the heat on JBL is because he took a cheap shot on someone that doesn't consider himself to be a 'tough guy' theres plenty of people that he could have tried to take a cheap shot at if he wanted a real fight, why didn't he try it on with some of the 'tougher' guys in the ring?

YOU ARE A PUSSY!

Glad that you wanted to put in a real nice insult, thanks   

[Sikotic™]

^everyone else >> JBL >> blue meanie

hahahahaha, gotta agree with that