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Interesting Muhammad Ali quote
LyRiCaL_G:
hahahahah i never heard such bullshit about ali and bruce lee being wack in my life befo...hahahahaha, ali a cheat?!?! hahahaha...........its nearly as funny as claimin canada got real hoods, i been their, the average kid think he hood livin in a big clean neighbourhood
Shallow:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on July 05, 2005, 06:32:32 PM ---hahahahah i never heard such bullshit about ali and bruce lee being wack in my life befo...hahahahaha, ali a cheat?!?! hahahaha...........its nearly as funny as claimin canada got real hoods, i been their, the average kid think he hood livin in a big clean neighbourhood
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I never said either was wack. They just aren't THE best. And Toronto does have hoods. Where do you live? If it isn't New York, LA, or Chicago, my city is bigger than yours.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 05, 2005, 08:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Allah's slave: Ibrahim Abdullah on July 05, 2005, 03:44:27 AM --- the white people who hate Ali, really hate the fact that he had the "nerve" to change his name to Muhammad Ali. Because Muhammad Ali is about as Muslim of a name you can get, Muhammad is the name of the Prophet who revealed the Noble Qu'ran, and Ali is the name of the cousin of the Prophet, and the most famous Muslim leader to follow Muhammad.
Had he been a young, cocky newcomer, Christian, Jesus worshippin black boxer named Cassius, they would not have given him the same grief. Although it wasn't the only reason they hated him, Clay changing his slave name to a righteous Arabic name- Ali- was a huge factor.
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I hate Ali,
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You just proved, again, that you're the biggest fucking loser on this board. If you hate Muhammad Ali, you must be a sad, sad motherfucker.
Trauma-san:
Oh, and for the record, I think the crowd was booing him for both reasons... 1. that he was a cocky black kid, unknown, who they viewed as a fluke, and who they thought was a loudmouth, and 2. that he had the audacity to change his name from Cassius to Muhammad. I will say on the part of the ring announcers, and the people giving the interview, they treated him with respect. The ring announcer referred to him as Muhammad Ali both times, and the interviewers fucked up three times, and called him Cassius, and everytime they apologized and recalled him Muhammad without a negative remark. Also, there was a famous interview with Howard Cossell where he refused to call him anything but Cassius, and Muhammad told him it was disrespectful, and Cossell apologized, and said he was right, and that he'd never call him that again, and that was that.
BTW, Ali is easily the greatest heavyweight to ever fight, there's no denying it by anyone with half a fucking mind or eyes that they can open without their own prejudices coming into play. I'd be the first one to give somebody credit over Ali, but the fact is there simply is no one in his league. You always hear the Joe Lous and Rocky Marciano (undefeated) bullshit, but come on, you've got to be joking. Ali's defeat of George Forman, and his legendary fights with Joe Frazier should be enough to convince anybody that he was literally a god in the ring.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Trauma on July 05, 2005, 08:57:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 05, 2005, 08:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Allah's slave: Ibrahim Abdullah on July 05, 2005, 03:44:27 AM --- the white people who hate Ali, really hate the fact that he had the "nerve" to change his name to Muhammad Ali. Because Muhammad Ali is about as Muslim of a name you can get, Muhammad is the name of the Prophet who revealed the Noble Qu'ran, and Ali is the name of the cousin of the Prophet, and the most famous Muslim leader to follow Muhammad.
Had he been a young, cocky newcomer, Christian, Jesus worshippin black boxer named Cassius, they would not have given him the same grief. Although it wasn't the only reason they hated him, Clay changing his slave name to a righteous Arabic name- Ali- was a huge factor.
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I hate Ali,
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You just proved, again, that you're the biggest fucking loser on this board. If you hate Muhammad Ali, you must be a sad, sad motherfucker.
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Nope, it's still you. You can't even take my whole quote where I make it clear I have nothing against him personally. You idiot.
Secondly; have you ever even seen Louis or Marciano fight? I bet you've seen as many Louis fights as you've heard Springsteen songs. Louis was a true champion. Never backed down and never dodged a rematch like Ali did. Louis wouldn't even where the belt until he beat the guy that beat him earlier in his career. The guy ewas all class and all skill. Rock beat him, but that was an old washed up Louis, not the Louis in his prime. How about Foreman, sure he lost to Ali, but Ali lost to fighters too, except Ali got rematches, where Foremannever got his with Ali. What Foreman has that no one else does is two Title reigns in different eras. How many fighters can with the belt in their mid 20s then 20 years later do it again in their mid 40s? When Ali was in his mid 40s he was so banged up he developed diseases. In his late 30s he was getting his ass handed to him by Larry Holmes who was good at best. I have seen every major Ali fight, and I tell you the guy was all hype. Boxing is like that. Look at Primo Carnera (you probably don't know who that is), he spent his whole career living off of his drawing power in the box office and charisma, he was big but had little skill. What eer fights weren't fixed were a joke. They would feed him second rate guys and pass them off as stars. Until he met Max Baer, who killed men in the ring literally.
Another reason I feel the Foreman fight was fixed was Foreman lost by KO. When has Foreman ever lost by KO. In his late 40s when he fought big young puchers like Briggs and Morrison he wouldn't fall down, but Ali who was never acclaimed for his punching did knock him out. There are 3 possibilities in my mind for the Foreman loss to Ali; 1) they put something in his water, 2) he took the dive for more money or 3) they paid his corner to keep telling him to run around and punch during the rope a dope. Foreman had one of te best corner men in the business, there is no way they wouldnm;'t have realized Ali's plan. There is a 4th reason but it only applies to people who belive in the magic of African Shaman, and the hex they put on him before the fight.
Hey Trauma, I bet you think Hulk Hogan was a better in-ring worker than Ric Flair back in the 80s. LOL. And Billy Jean is a better piece of music than Mozart's Symphony no. 41 in C major.
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