Weezer's Unreleased 2nd album

[Trauma-san]

Anybody heard much about this? Since I was so into SMiLE I think I might move into this one next, lol.

Anyways, in 95 or so Weezer recorded their first album, the brain child of musical visionary "Rivers Cuomo" who sings lead and plays lead guitar for Weezer.  I think he's written all of their songs.  The first album had some really cool shit on it, like "Say It Ain't So", "Buddy Holly" "The Sweater Song", and "In My Garage".  Weezer recorded it with this great producer, then turned it into the record company.

Rivers immediately started work on their second album, which was to be called "Songs From The Black Hole", and was going to be a Rock Opera.  The album was to have characters, the main character was "Jonas", there were two girls, a robot, a bunch of crazy shit like that.  So before their first album even came out, Rivers was hard at work, on a tiny 8 track, writing songs and shit and recording demos for this Rock Opera.  The story is about this guy Jonas who had sex with this chick in College in 1 song, then the next one she's trying to get back with him, the next he's thinking about it, he ends up with some other girl, etc. etc. all through the album.

Their first album "Weezer" or the "blue album" came out in 95, and they got huge success right off the bat with "Buddy Holly".  Rivers kept working on "Songs from the Black Hole" and told all the band about what he was doing... in the fall of 1995, Rivers enrolled in HARVARD (yes, a rock guy intelligent enough to get accepted to Harvard) and began studying there.  While there, he decided to change the whole direction of the album, because he thought it was too serious.  He recorded a couple songs called "Pink Triange" and "El Scorcho" which were to become the basis of their new 2nd album, called "Pinkerton".  He dropped almost all of the Rock Opera tracks, even though all had been demo'd, and some had been fully produced, and produced their entire 2nd album himself. 

The sound was pretty different from their first album, so they didn't sell anywhere near as many copies, although they had a couple hits... this was in 1996.

5 years go by, and finally Weezer releases their 3rd album, again called "Weezer" with a green cover.  They had the guy who produced their first album produce it, and hit it big again with two singles, "Hash Pipe" and "Island In The Sun". 

So River's next brainstorm is that he wants to release albums in rapid succession like the Beatles did in the 60's.  He starts writing several songs a day, and released an album of them called "Maladroit" the next year (2002).  It wasn't as big of a success, but "Dope Noise" was kind of big.  Rivers would frequently record maybe 5 or 6 songs a week, then post them on their message board so the fans could tell him which ones they liked. 

2005 is here now, and they've released their new album, and have had pretty good success with "Beverly Hills".  Their next track is going to be "We are all on drugs"... get this, the Music Video, they jacked an old Quiet Riot video, and just dubbed their song over it, and submitted it to MTV for rotation.  That's the funniest shit I've ever heard an artist do. 

I'll let you know if I find any of the Songs from the Black Hole.

[white Boy]

would be intresting to hear.

[Diabolical]

Thats crazy just playing their song over the QR video, it must look pretty weird.

[Trauma-san]

Yeah, it's pretty hilarious.

O.K., I've been reading more into this stuff, and apparently Rivers is one of the strangest guys in music today.  Pretty fascinating.


He's been going BACK to Harvard, and enrolled there last fall to continue his studies.  He's back out of school now, and needs 1 more semester to Graduate.  When he enrolled again, he needed to write an admissions essay, so he wrote the following one... and they took him! This is just hilarious, I think.  Anyways, get ready for some insight into a madman.

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QUOTE From Weezer.com
Tuesday, July 27, 2004

I wrote this for readmission to school...

What I’ve Been Up To Since I Left School

Weird Science
After the initial failure of my band’s second album, Pinkerton, I decided not to return to school in the fall of 1997, instead setting out on a mission to develop creative methods which would allow me to be more consistent as an artist. Above all, I wanted to cure myself of the Romanticism which I believed was to blame for my failure.

Throughout 1998 and 1999 I engaged in hundreds of song-experiments. I filled notebooks and cassette tapes. I drew graphs, tables, and charts. I studied other writers’ methods. I took hundreds of pages of notes on the creative process, mostly from Nietzsche, but also from Goethe and Stravinsky.

At first, I maintained a social life, playing and coaching soccer and continuing my classical piano studies with Bruce Sutherland. Eventually, however, I became more and more isolated. I unplugged my phone. I painted the walls and ceiling of my bedroom black and covered the windows with fiberglass insulation. I disciplined myself to an extreme extent. My goal was to purge myself of all weakness so that I could write “perfect” songs as reliably as a machine.

Most of the time, I believed that I was optimistic and happy. The song-experiments, however, produced music of less and less joy and, occasionally, I would fall into despair. At one point, in September of 1999, I actually gave up my mission and decided to go back to school, sacrificing my music career indefinitely. I contacted Dean Thomas Dingman to gain admittance, but learned that I had missed the registration deadline by two weeks. I could only move forward with the music.

I struggled on for two-and-a-half years in all. I finally concluded that such intense focus on musical perfection was only scaring off any real inspiration I might have had. I needed to broaden my focus onto a more practical, tangible goal, in the hopes that music would start to flow in service to that goal. Nietzsche’s discussions of “great”men—Julius Caesar, Cesare Borgia, and Napoleon—suggested the goal of “world domination”, or in terms applicable to me, commercial success.

Commercial success, I believed, simply dictated making the most of what I had, musically, and becoming active with my band again, and making an album and touring. I swallowed my creative insecurities for the sake of that success and revealed my songs to close associates in early 2000. Their positive reactions led to rehearsals, which led to performances. We discovered that during our long absence, we had only become more popular. Our “failed” album, Pinkerton, was now viewed by many critics and fans as great. With momentum behind me, I kept writing. At the end of 2000, we entered the studio to make our long overdue third album.


Imperial Aspirations
The Green Album was released in May of 2001, going on to sell over two million copies worldwide. We toured extensively, playing our biggest concerts ever. We performed on Saturday Night Live and at the MTV Movie Awards. The album’s success at radio and MTV, and in foreign markets wherein we had had no previous success, seemed to me to validate the approach I had taken with myself and my art. I became the opposite of the unconfident hermit I was in 1998 and 1999. I believed that my band would become “the biggest band in the world” and that I was the man to lead us to that destiny.

I sought to cultivate the same ruthless practicality in my business that I had achieved in my music. I studied the lives of Napoleon and David Geffen, Machiavelli’s “The Prince”, and contemporary texts on leadership and management. I gradually took over all of the business responsibilities from our manager and managed the band completely by myself. My performing, writing, and recording continued but were now joined by my business activities, all of which together I viewed as converging on the one goal of “world domination”. I read books on business and negotiating. I hired a staff. I reformed our operation, renegotiated contracts, and consolidated power. I found it easy to gain ground in negotiations because no music businesspeople wanted to “play hardball” with “the artist”. Furthermore, I believed we were able to grow with integrity, as I could make informed choices, seeing for once exactly how the business worked.

However, I also steered us into many bitter battles, including two lawsuits and many other very tense negotiations. For example, in order to demonstrate our independence from the record company in the new age of digital media, I shut them out of the making of our fourth album, Maladroit. We financed and produced the album entirely ourselves, sending hundreds of copies of the finished product to press and radio—but none to our record company. The record company could only watch on the sidelines as the first single quickly climbed the charts, and the fans downloaded the promotional copies off the internet. At this point, we had what I believed was optimal leverage, and we renegotiated our contract.

Ultimately, however, Maladroit was not the big hit that it had threatened to be, selling only about three-quarters of a million copies. I had succeeded in improving our financial arrangement, but not in making a hit album. The record company blamed my shenanigans for the downturn in success.

Many fans also criticized the music. They heard both Maladroit and The Green Album as being “mechanical” and “emotionless”. I tried to evaluate the criticism objectively but I had a difficult time. I had crushed my faculty of self-criticism in 1998-2000 in order to make a comeback. I could not tell if my current predicament was just a classic case of an audience lagging behind the development of an artist (as in the case of Bob Dylan when he went electric) or if I had I really “lost something”. I reacted defensively, calling the fans “little bitches” in an interview with Guitar World magazine. Now the fans were unhappy, the record company was unhappy, my associates were unhappy, and I was unhappy. I did not know what could be done to change that.

I fell into a life of ego and vice. Deep inside, however, I was having serious doubts. I asked myself, “Is my life really supporting the production of the music I know I am capable of creating?” I had to admit that music no longer gave me the feeling of sublime ecstasy that it once had. Although I had already written another large pile of songs for our fifth album, I put all plans to record on hold. There was a revolution brewing in my mind, soon to be triggered by the man we had hired a few months earlier to produce the album, Rick Rubin.


Renunciation
In February of 2003, Rick gave me a copy of Daniel Ladinsky’s translation of Hafiz’s poetry, The Gift. After overcoming my initial aversion to all things spiritual, I decided to read some of the book because I trusted Rick so much. Henry Mindlin, in his introduction to the book, says:

Hafiz wrote hundreds of ghazals [or love songs], finding ways to bring new depth and meaning to the lyrics without losing the accustomed association of a love song…He explored different forms and levels of love: his delight in nature’s beauty, his romantic courtship of that ideal unattainable girl, his sweet affection for his wife, his tender feelings for his child…his relationship with his teacher and his adoration of God.

I was struck by the connection between all these different forms of love. I recognized that the feeling of sublime ecstasy I once got from music was just one more of these forms of love.

I had an epiphany: if the feeling these mystics get in union with their God is analogous to the feeling I used to get in union with my music, then their teachings for how to achieve their union should likewise serve to instruct me how to achieve my union. A whole world of spiritual teachings opened up to me for the first time since, as a child, I had decided that I was an “atheist”. I now read these teachings as coded instructions for how to connect with my musical creativity. For example, when Hafiz says, “Self-Effacement is the emerald dagger you need to plunge deep into yourself upon this path to …God”, I read it as “Self-Effacement is the emerald dagger you need to plunge deep into yourself upon this path to Musical Creativity.” Like this, I just replaced the word God wherever I saw it. I had discovered a new path. I believed that this path was what I had been waiting for.

I eagerly studied a wide variety of traditions including the mystical poetry of Hafiz, Rumi, and Kabir, contemporary spiritual teachers such as Eckhart Tolle and Leonard Jacobson, and ancient texts such as the Tao Te Ching. In accord with my understanding of these teachings, I abruptly dropped all of my business responsibilities and hard-won power, and isolated myself once again. I fasted and lost fifteen percent of my weight. I took a vow of complete celibacy. I gave away or sold most of my possessions, my house, and my car and lived in an empty apartment next to Rick Rubin’s house for the rest of the year. I moved to settle outstanding lawsuits and reconcile myself with enemies. I apologized to many people. I volunteered six days a week at Project Angel Food in Hollywood, preparing meals for people with HIV.


Balance
Thus, my life made another extreme swing, as it has many times, at least since I was a teenager. I have been sometimes a tyrant, sometimes the most frustratingly passive person you have ever met, sometimes a socialite, sometimes a hermit, sometimes a rock star, sometimes a student. I have had little inner stability.

During this latest swing towards spirituality, however, I started a practice at Rick Rubin’s suggestion which may help me achieve some balance: meditation. I was averse to the idea, initially. My goal in trying all the crazy experiments in my life has always been to improve, maintain, or recover my connection to music. Meditation, it seemed to me, would rob me of the angst that I believed was an essential precondition to that connection. With little to lose, however, I took the chance. I experienced immediate benefits.

The technique I was drawn to is called Vipassana. It is taught around the world at over one hundred centers. (Go to www.dhamma.org for more information.) I started the practice fourteen months ago, attending seven ten-day courses and serving as a volunteer at two. Since then, I have found that the areas of tension in my mind—the fear, the anger, the sadness, the craving—are slowly melting away. I am left with a more pristine mind, more sharp and sensitive than I previously imagined possible. I am more calm and stable. My concentration and capacity to work have increased greatly. I feel like I am finally much closer to reaching my potential.

I now live in a small but comfortable apartment. I feed myself adequately. I took a class at USC this spring, “The History of Literary Criticism”, and enjoyed it very much. I take private lessons in music composition once a week from Bruce Reich, a professor at UCLA. I still volunteer, once a week, now at the West Hollywood Food Coalition, feeding homeless or otherwise disadvantaged people. Most pleasing to me is that, month by month, I have watched my creative flexibility growing. The music I have created over the last six months has brought me much enjoyment.

I am returning to school in the fall. Other than that, I am wide open to whatever else comes my way… 

Rivers Cuomo

[Diabolical]

That was a good read. It brings up some interesting things too.

Thanks Trauma.

[YoungGotti42k]

good stuff

rivers is pretty weird, i read part of his book, river's edge, and it had a lot of intresting shit about weezer and cuamo, it's not a great book, but if ur lookin for some answers to questinos u mite have, this book is the best thing to get

[Doggystylin]

Weezer is a crazy band, I love their stuff, plus they're from here (L.A.) and LMAO @ the idea for the new video, I got to see that.

[Trauma-san]

I checked the video out, it's hilarious.

Rivers is into some new thing now where he goes on meditation retreat, and for 12 hours a day for 10 days in a row sits on a floor and meditates without talking.

He also said that Beverly Hills is really how he feels about Beverly Hills "I could buy a house there, but I would never belong"

LOL

and "Freak Me Out" is about a spider. 

[YoungGotti42k]

they werent born in california except for mikey, he's one of the ex members, was born in oakland, but they've spent most of their lives in California, so they're considered a california band

most of their songs include california too
weezer - california
weezer - velouria
they mention santa monica all the time too, like in hash pipe
weezer - beverly hills

[Doggystylin]

to be honest, id always known of the blue album and heard buddy holly of course but never had the album and I just bought it last night and WOW....So far its amazing, I haven't really given it a good listen all the way through cause im stuck on "Say It Ain't So" god damn i LOVE that song

[YoungGotti42k]

yeah man my fav's are Undone, Say It Aint So, Holiday, Buddy Holly, In The Garage

in fact, i love the whole album, it's all my fav

[Trauma-san]

Say it ain't so is about his dad.  When he was about 5, his dad left his mom, and he remembers seeing a beer in the refrigerator for the first time, so he associated beer with his dad leaving.

His mom remarried, and when he was about 16, he opened the refrigerator one day and saw a beer in it... so he started freaking out, thinking it meant his stepdad was going to leave.

"SAYYYY ITTTA INNN'T SOOOO!!!"

That's why you've got all the "Flip on The Telly, Wrestle With Jimmy" that's his brother's nickname

and the

"Father, Stepfather" chants towards the end.


Great song, I was lucky enough to see Weezer live in a really small venue in about 96 or so, when their celebrity was waning because their second album tanked, there was only about 500 people there, in 1 little room.  REALLY cool.  It was right when "Bulls On Parade" came out, and Rivers played a little bit of it between songs, so the crowd kept going "BULLS ON PARADE!!! BULLS ON PARADE!!!" and finally after a couple songs, Rivers went "We're not gonna play fucking pocket full of shells or whatever it's called, so you can just forget about it"  It was a really good show, Say It Ain't So was of course the highlight. 

[Doggystylin]

wow that must have been amazing, im so pissed i didnt go to coachella this year, i missed out on so many great bands including 2 of my fav, coldplay and weezer, and that thing about the beer is weird, i wonder if he drinks it, lol

[YoungGotti42k]

i know they smoked  hash when they were younger and while they recorded like their first 2 albums

maybe they still do?

[Sven]

I saw Weezer in June infront of about 80.000 people (since they played quit early). I'm really feelin' Wezzee ever since Buddy Holly, but live they wasn't all thta. I mean we had fun jumpin around but the guys were just standing on stage, not running around and not even talkin too much between the songs. They wasnt all that....

Anyway I bet that's different if u see them playing a club gig.

Nice thread Trauma.