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The Bible v The Qur'an
cska-moscow:
--- Quote from: Captain on August 21, 2005, 11:21:15 PM ---^you cant compare the sexism in the church to the sexism in islam... sexism in christianity only streches as far as church on sundays, islam the sexism is an ongoing thing every-day...
how is it the women have a choice ? they HAVE to wear a veil, they are comfortable with it, just like a dog can get used to wearing a flea collar, sure its weird at first, but then conditioning allows it to forget ! so why dont they make it optional ? i am sure that over 50% of women would stop wearing it if they werent punished for it in any way...
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This is exactly what I mean, you cannot relate the distorted vew's of countries that are predominantly Muslim and say that, that is what the Qur'an and Islam teaches. If you spent the time in analysing and researching the Qur'an and Islam, you come to know that what many of these countries enforce upon their people, is totally against the teaching's of Islam. But the fact remain's that many people in the west only get one view of Islam and that is the totally wrong view.
Like I said, if you research the Qur'an you would come to know that what happen's in these nation's has nothing in relevance to Islam.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: lazarus on August 22, 2005, 02:41:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: Captain on August 21, 2005, 11:21:15 PM ---^you cant compare the sexism in the church to the sexism in islam... sexism in christianity only streches as far as church on sundays, islam the sexism is an ongoing thing every-day...
how is it the women have a choice ? they HAVE to wear a veil, they are comfortable with it, just like a dog can get used to wearing a flea collar, sure its weird at first, but then conditioning allows it to forget ! so why dont they make it optional ? i am sure that over 50% of women would stop wearing it if they werent punished for it in any way...
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This is exactly what I mean, you cannot relate the distorted vew's of countries that are predominantly Muslim and say that, that is what the Qur'an and Islam teaches. If you spent the time in analysing and researching the Qur'an and Islam, you come to know that what many of these countries enforce upon their people, is totally against the teaching's of Islam. But the fact remain's that many people in the west only get one view of Islam and that is the totally wrong view.
Like I said, if you research the Qur'an you would come to know that what happen's in these nation's has nothing in relevance to Islam.
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You said no one forces them to wear the hijab, but clearly they are forced since they are not allowed to take it off. Whether this is a teaching of Islam isn't my concern. You said they aren't forced. You are wrong.
cska-moscow:
What I mean't to say was, and I apologize, that Islam and the Qur'an do not force a woman to wear Hijab, yes there are statement's which advise a woman to "cover" herself but they do not tell the woman to i.e. "Wear the Hijab or you will die", but like I said the Qur'an is a book of guidance, I believe, and I don't blame the western people or people who do not know much about Islam/Qur'an, that if you really want to question Islam, read the Qur'an/Hadith's and saying's of the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) and that is the only authentic source for the "true" and "pure" Islam, rather than reading anti-Islamic sites and watching the news in which you get a one sided view of Islam.
7even:
Simple question to lazarus: Do you think the treatment of women in islamic countries is good and how it is supposed to be?
cska-moscow:
The treatment of women in some countries that are predominantly Muslim, in my opinion, is totally against what I percieve to be the teaching's of Islam and the Qur'an. I think many of the ruler's use Islam as an excuse to what they do, just like people against Islam, they take verses out of context to use for their own means. I once saw a documentary a couple of year's back, which showed treatment of women in Pakistan and when questioned and asked "Are you allowed to do this ?", the people said verses in the Qur'an that did not even corellate to their excuse, that show's that many of these so called "Muslim's" have a weak view of Islam.
But the world is like this and we cannot do much about it, this thing's occur everywhere and we cannot really quell it. I think we should live our own lives the best we can and voice view's against such atoricities and let the judging be done by Allah or whoever you follow.
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