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Why do hip-hop artists, some of them if not all, like to limit themselves and put themselves in categories if the media hasn't already done it? Like I recall a Killer Mike interview recently where he said a lot of MC's like to limit themselves to one particular style and sound, I feel that the more artists experiment with different sounds the better off the game will be in the future.What do you thiink?
Quote from: Hellfire Dame on September 14, 2005, 12:02:22 PMWhy do hip-hop artists, some of them if not all, like to limit themselves and put themselves in categories if the media hasn't already done it? Like I recall a Killer Mike interview recently where he said a lot of MC's like to limit themselves to one particular style and sound, I feel that the more artists experiment with different sounds the better off the game will be in the future.What do you thiink?Because very few are actualy artists. They are wannabe thugs who still put street cred ahead of art. Most were never that artistic growing up they just learned to rap. They come out o the mainstream and focus more on there hood and way of life and less on their artistc merit. In short, they don't have the artistic talent to branch out or the courage to try it.Plus the fans take rappers too literally. If a rapper raps about something he hasn't gone through he's called fake. In '93 Bruce Springsteen wrote a song through the perspective of a gay man dying of aids, for the movie Phildelphia starring Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington. He did it with out worry. No one was going to think he was gay and no one would care. In rap, for a guy like 50 or Jada to do that, it would take a lot of courage on their part anda lot of open mindedness on their fans part. In short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans. (I'm not talking about the posters in this board, but more the fake and real thugs on the street that pretend they know music).
In short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.
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Quote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 12:40:02 PMIn short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.If anything is stupid, it's that comment of yours.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 14, 2005, 07:53:46 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 12:40:02 PMIn short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.If anything is stupid, it's that comment of yours.No he's right, rap fans are some of the most close minded asses ever.Most of them are music nazis.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 14, 2005, 07:53:46 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 12:40:02 PMIn short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.If anything is stupid, it's that comment of yours.So then please give me examples of open mindedness in rap, as a whole. It';s real easy to call something stupid and give no other info. (for the record, I meant mainstream rappers. If you have a friend around the corner he doesn't count). So far in rap, I hear about thugging, misogyny, sexism, drugs, rap skill, and whitey must die, and not much else. Give me examples that rap strays from these topics on a large scale. Show me how rap and the hip hop culture accepts the world outside their own, (and not connected to them).
Quote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 08:23:08 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 14, 2005, 07:53:46 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 12:40:02 PMIn short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.If anything is stupid, it's that comment of yours.So then please give me examples of open mindedness in rap, as a whole. It';s real easy to call something stupid and give no other info. (for the record, I meant mainstream rappers. If you have a friend around the corner he doesn't count). So far in rap, I hear about thugging, misogyny, sexism, drugs, rap skill, and whitey must die, and not much else. Give me examples that rap strays from these topics on a large scale. Show me how rap and the hip hop culture accepts the world outside their own, (and not connected to them).1. Your original post stated "rappers are...", and you didn't specify mainstream until now. I agree with the list of concepts heard in rap music, but you can't relate that to stupidity.2. The main reason why I stated that your comment was stupid is because of the second part of the comment where you stated that most rap fans are stupid. Just because a certain type of music appeals to you, doesn't make you stupid. But then again... you're a rap fan, and rap fans aren't open-minded, so you wouldn't be able to see that, now would you?
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 14, 2005, 08:29:22 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 08:23:08 PMQuote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on September 14, 2005, 07:53:46 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 14, 2005, 12:40:02 PMIn short rappers are stupid and so are most of their fans.If anything is stupid, it's that comment of yours.So then please give me examples of open mindedness in rap, as a whole. It';s real easy to call something stupid and give no other info. (for the record, I meant mainstream rappers. If you have a friend around the corner he doesn't count). So far in rap, I hear about thugging, misogyny, sexism, drugs, rap skill, and whitey must die, and not much else. Give me examples that rap strays from these topics on a large scale. Show me how rap and the hip hop culture accepts the world outside their own, (and not connected to them).1. Your original post stated "rappers are...", and you didn't specify mainstream until now. I agree with the list of concepts heard in rap music, but you can't relate that to stupidity.2. The main reason why I stated that your comment was stupid is because of the second part of the comment where you stated that most rap fans are stupid. Just because a certain type of music appeals to you, doesn't make you stupid. But then again... you're a rap fan, and rap fans aren't open-minded, so you wouldn't be able to see that, now would you? 1. What do you meanby "you can't relate that to stupidity."? I'm not sure what that means.2. I clearly made a point to say "(I'm not talking about the posters in this board, but more the fake and real thugs on the street that pretend they know music)" in my fist post. I guessed you missed it. The "hardcore" fan of today is not as prominant as it once was. In the early 70s a band like Pink Floyd could make Dark Side of The Moon and a large number of music fans would get into it and enjoy it. If that album was released today it would get no video or radio play and be rejected by the masses. The mainstream fan of today has been too conditioned, in my opinion. Not just in rap, but rap is the music of choice at the moment and the rap scene asa whole has suffered. I don't mean every single rapper or every single fan, but the majority of both to the point where the minority is way too small to make a dent. Did I oversimplify in my first post? I don't don't think I did. I felt I explained who I was talking about and who I wasn't talking about. Obviously people like Common or Mos Def don't fit the mold I was criticzing, but a few rappers breaking out and doing something different on a small scale does nothing for the scene.