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NINTENDO UNVEILS REVOLUTION CONTROLLER
Shallow:
--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on September 27, 2005, 10:12:21 AM ---Did you read the news story you posted? EVEN IF Sony made 1.53 billion dollars, TOTAL, for their entire fiscal year, Nintendo made 630 million, for the past fiscal quarter. For the fiscal year BEFORE that quarter, which runs up with the sony article you posted, Nintendo earned 1.04 billion dollars in operating profit. Sony is sellng camcorders, dvd's, and even filming hollywood movies like Spiderman 2 to help them make their 1.53 billion dollars. Your article clearly shows Sony making 407 million dollars in operating profit last year, in their gaming division. 407 million dollars, Nintendo made twice that.
P.S. - I've been doing a little research online, and the nasty secret is, Nintendo's been making more money than Sony for fucking YEARS. Microsoft isn't even in the picture, they've only turned a profit one quarter, while Nintendo has only lost 1 quarter, and that was due to a fluctuation in the value of the U.S. dollar vs. the Yen. Nintendo's advantage is apparently that not only are they one of the top 3 hardware manufacturers, they're one of the top 2 or 3 software manufacturers as well.
So argue all you want, Nintendo's not going to die anytime soon, because they're making money smart instead of running a footrace on technology.
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That's because Sony has way more costs and create way more jobs. If Sony goes bankrupt the economy asa whole would suffer a bit. If Nintendo goes under, nobody will care on a grand scale. I never said Nintendo will die. I said they won't beat PS3, and I stand by that. Sony may turn a only a slighlty larger prfit but they generate billions more than Nintendo and help the entire economic market grow.
Seer - why are we still arguing? All I said was that Sony will sell more than the others. Do you agree or not? I don't care how they get their games. The point is that they do, and that companies would rather go exclusive. Sony is not losing money every year and shows no signs of going bankrupt. This means the PS3 has no reason to fail. The Playstation markey is so much higher than the others they can't lose n the next round. What could happen is X Box narrowing the gap and then winning the round after. But not the next round. I'm judging the sucess by the consumers, not by the company profit. Sony has enough money to keep PS3 running and that's all that matters in the war.
Nintendo had Raw too, and PSX still destoyed them. It means nothing. The people have spoken and the people want Playstation. It'll take a lot for XBox 360 or Nintendo Revolution to change the opinions of the peopl. N64 could have prevented this if they had gone the route of CD and had dropped the ridiculous silicon system that no one wanted to learn to produce for, but N64 dropped the ball and Sony ran with it, and they are so far ahead it's going to takea long time to catch up.
Trauma-san:
You're a fucking idiot. You're sitting here, every way wrong you can possibly be, and looking for ways to back out. "Sony may turn only a slightly larger profit". Bitch, Nintendo made two and a half times the profit Sony made last fiscal year. Sony didn't turn a slightly larger profit. They turned a significantly smaller profit.
Second, now we're talking the economy? Who the fuck is talking about how many people each company employs? I show you that Nintendo is handing Sony their ass, and you tell me Sony employs more people? WHO GIVES A FUCK. They just announced they're firing 10 thousand of them, partially because Nintendo is kicking their ass with less employees. This alllll stems from you earlier saying the DS would flop, you consistantly insinuating that Nintendo is taking a back seat to Sony and Microsoft (when in reality, Nintendo is making more money than both of them combined).
Lets clown you a little bit. Here's a disection of your original post, on page 1 of this.
--- Quote ---I feel bad for everyone at Nintendo that knew this was a bad idea and are now going to lose their jobs once this thing tanks.
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Do you feel bad for the 10 THOUSAND PEOPLE sony just announced they were going to fire thursday? Look it up. They're cutting 10 thousand jobs.
--- Quote ---Why do they always focus on this bullshit by trying to make new things. NES took what Atari was and beat it because the games were better. SNES kept the same formula with a graphics improvement. Then the norm changed from cartride to CD and Nintendo played the old fogie and refused to change. Since then it's almso as if they are trying to overcompensate from not moving forward to moving too far ahead. No one is going to want to play a system like this and no developers are going to want to mae games forthis that they can't make for PS3. Nintendo's first part games should be nice but the system as a whole is going to fail.
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System is going to fail.... but yet Nintendo's gamecube and gameboys are helping lead Nintendo to profits two and a half times sonys. What are you measuring failure by? I'm measuring it by what I measure everything by if you're a business like Nintendo... MONEY. Bottom line is, Nintendo is consistantly making billions of dollars of profit for their shareholders, more than Sony, and more than Xbox. Maybe they know more about how to make money than Sony's gaming division, or Microsofts? I imagine they know immensely more about it than you do.
--- Quote ---I saw the video of the conference and the moron actually used the logic that non gamers are more used to TV remotes rather than video game controllers and they will be drawn to this system because the psychological barrier will be broken. What a bunch of idiots. My dad hates video games and can't use the controller but he loves TV and uses the remote all the time.
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They're the idiots, but yet you just admitted their logic is flawless and you have proof of it in your own home.
--- Quote ---There is no way he's going to get into this system because of that. Even if you can turn it sideways for old games it sill only has 2 buttons ont he front for your right hand.
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There's countless adaptors that could be made for it and countless ways to control the game with the movement of the wand as well as the buttons that can be daisy chained into the expansion port on the bottom. You're looking at the easiest configuration, for folks like your father.
--- Quote ---It's real easy Nintendo; a D-pad and analog stick next to the D pad, 6 buttons on the front and two on the shoulders and a bunch of decent games. That's how you sell video game systems.
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Yeah, Nintendo knows, dumbass, they invented the fucking D-pad, they invented the fucking analog stick. They came up with the 6 button scheme, and they also came up with the shoulder buttons. They've also made more decent games than any other game developer in business. Any other bright ideas you wanna bitch about?
--- Quote ---The guys at Microsoft are having a field day right now, and the guys at Sony are so far ahead they don't care one way or the other.
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Hmmm... well do the guys at Microsoft give a shit that they're losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year with their system? Do the guys at Sony realize they're not ahead at all, their profit margins are 40 percent what Nintendo's are? Yeah, lets laugh. You're a fucking idot.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 27, 2005, 10:33:19 AM ---I'm judging the sucess by the consumers, not by the company profit.
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So by your example, Nintendo could just lower the revolution's price to 10 bucks, and if they sold 100 million systems, they would be more successful than Sony, even though it would bankrupt them. AH, gotcha. Hey, lemme guess, you work at a car lot.
Shallow:
I already showed you that Sony makes more mobey than Nintendo. You have yet to show me otherwise. The article I posted above clearly explains that Sony Gaming is doing fine, and it was Sony Electronics (DVD players, Tvs etc) that had slipped. The PS2 sold 16 million unites (that's almost as much as Game Cube's total sales). "However, the division did hit a new record in sales: 252 million software units shipped worldwide, an increase of 30 million units over the previous year." Oh yeah, they're getting their asses handed to them, dumb ass.
Go put on a Beach Biys record and jerk off to pictures of Michael Jackson, because your bullshit isn't flying here ass hole.
Ðøšïå:
and after all this argueing its still a nintendo.
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