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Quote from: Antonio on October 23, 2005, 04:59:09 PMThere's something you dont find in them stats: it's the heart.Yes, that's an argument. But you don't trade two potential superstars for a moron with heart, especially when the potential superstars have posted up better numbers.
There's something you dont find in them stats: it's the heart.
My point is that you cant use career numbers to illustrate a point in this situation, since both players have been put in different situations. Artest has never been the first option on a team to score. Also, Artest's value on defense is just way better than Odom
You're making it like i killed your dog.
In the future? Artest is 26, just like Odom.My point is simply that Parker+ARTEST+Bryant+PF+Mihm > Parker+ODOM+Bryant+BROWN+MihmAnd, like i said in the first post (but nobody cared): "Obviously you had to acquire another PF."So i'd rather trade to get another PF having Artest as my starting SG/SF than going with this roster.Basically i'm saying Artest > Odom and that i'd rather trade to get a better PF than risking with Brown (considering we have no backups PF to help him if he'll fail).You're making it like i killed your dog.
Quote from: Antonio on October 24, 2005, 04:27:11 AMIn the future? Artest is 26, just like Odom.My point is simply that Parker+ARTEST+Bryant+PF+Mihm > Parker+ODOM+Bryant+BROWN+MihmAnd, like i said in the first post (but nobody cared): "Obviously you had to acquire another PF."So i'd rather trade to get another PF having Artest as my starting SG/SF than going with this roster.Basically i'm saying Artest > Odom and that i'd rather trade to get a better PF than risking with Brown (considering we have no backups PF to help him if he'll fail).You're making it like i killed your dog.Your point sucks. Artest has met his potential, he is currently playing the best basketball he possibly can after taking some time to develop. Now we have 2 players. One is currently in the developing stage (which Artest went through) and one has played on an all-star level in the past, but needs to learn how to utilize his skill to become a top 10 player in the NBA. Now imagine how dumb you'd feel if both Odom and Kwame developed into superstars and you traded them for Artest, but Artest is retiring the next year to make a country CD, while Odom and Kwame are on top of the league. That's why people don't make trades like these, because the possibilities can leave you with the label "worst GM ever"...You say that a Smush, Kobe, Artest, power forward acquisation, & Mihm line-up would be better than a Smush, Kobe, Odom, Kwame, & Mihm line-up, yet you have no idea how a system like that would work out...Who would be the initiator? Who is skilled enough to keep Kobe on the wing? Where will we find a power forward? Without Kwame, our power forward is Cook. Without Lamar, the plan to run the triangle is demolished...You have no clue what you're saying, give up the "Laker fan" title.
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 24, 2005, 10:21:05 AMQuote from: Antonio on October 24, 2005, 04:27:11 AMIn the future? Artest is 26, just like Odom.My point is simply that Parker+ARTEST+Bryant+PF+Mihm > Parker+ODOM+Bryant+BROWN+MihmAnd, like i said in the first post (but nobody cared): "Obviously you had to acquire another PF."So i'd rather trade to get another PF having Artest as my starting SG/SF than going with this roster.Basically i'm saying Artest > Odom and that i'd rather trade to get a better PF than risking with Brown (considering we have no backups PF to help him if he'll fail).You're making it like i killed your dog.Your point sucks. Artest has met his potential, he is currently playing the best basketball he possibly can after taking some time to develop. Now we have 2 players. One is currently in the developing stage (which Artest went through) and one has played on an all-star level in the past, but needs to learn how to utilize his skill to become a top 10 player in the NBA. Now imagine how dumb you'd feel if both Odom and Kwame developed into superstars and you traded them for Artest, but Artest is retiring the next year to make a country CD, while Odom and Kwame are on top of the league. That's why people don't make trades like these, because the possibilities can leave you with the label "worst GM ever"...You say that a Smush, Kobe, Artest, power forward acquisation, & Mihm line-up would be better than a Smush, Kobe, Odom, Kwame, & Mihm line-up, yet you have no idea how a system like that would work out...Who would be the initiator? Who is skilled enough to keep Kobe on the wing? Where will we find a power forward? Without Kwame, our power forward is Cook. Without Lamar, the plan to run the triangle is demolished...You have no clue what you're saying, give up the "Laker fan" title. I highly doubt Odom or Brown will be one day better than Artest . Plus there are differences between being a fan and being very subjective
lol man the only point you have is to make a 2 players vs 1 combination?Just combine Artest with a productive PF and good night again.
Quote from: Antonio on October 24, 2005, 12:59:29 PMlol man the only point you have is to make a 2 players vs 1 combination?Just combine Artest with a productive PF and good night again.Like a productive PF is easy to acquire? We have one now, why trade that away along with an all-star caliber player for one guy who can destroy your team in less than a second.
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on October 24, 2005, 01:01:55 PMQuote from: Antonio on October 24, 2005, 12:59:29 PMlol man the only point you have is to make a 2 players vs 1 combination?Just combine Artest with a productive PF and good night again.Like a productive PF is easy to acquire? We have one now, why trade that away along with an all-star caliber player for one guy who can destroy your team in less than a second.You're making it looks like Kwame Brown was a Saint in Washington.. Ask Wizard fans how Kwame tried to destroy their team! Anyway the answer is that the one who can destroy your team in less than a second can also make your team a contender one in less than a second, if he focus on basketball. And with Phil Jackson coaching him i like his chances. Parker, Kobe, Artest (what a defence!!!!), PF, C is 2/5 a real contender team. Just wait 1-2 more season to sign a big guy and you have the best team in the NBA. That's the plan. With Brown and Odom it's all about "let's hope they'll turn into superstars". Way more risky, cause in 2 years you might have to rebuild that team again.
Do you guys realize how much you went front to back over a fantasy trade that will NEVER happen?