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Shut up woman. Dont ask for no pass. You aint gettin it.1. Pussy I never claimed to be a real Muslim. Whatever the fuck that means, I ll leave all that "real" talk for fuckin 14 year old Ohio trailer trash. 2. Youre comparing Serbian natl TV and Al Jazeera and tryin to find a common ground between them regarding their use as military targets. You playin ya self son. I dont even need to tear into your post, its already mincemeat.3. Id rather have an intelligent conversation with intelligent people, but much to my dismay this isnt as common on this forum as I wish it to be. So kindly fuck off if u dont meet the above criteria and instead u find your self being victimized.Ask your self why there are people on this forum who I havent even looked at in a negative manner for 4 years and why theres some people who are just plain certified bitches and will remain as such till the die Tech loggs off. Then re read your posts. Then acknowledge that light bulb above your head. Follow that up by going to the library and gettin a membership.
Oh, the example was the one of the topicQuote from: Lazarus The NEW Creation on November 21, 2005, 09:28:16 AMSaudi Teacher Sentenced to 750 LashesBy TAREK AL-ISSAWI, Associated Press WriterThursday, November 17, 2005(11-17) 09:10 PST DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- A Saudi high-school chemistry teacher accused of discussing religion with his students has been sentenced to 750 lashes and 40 months in prison for blasphemy, officials said Thursday.The court ruling was condemned by human rights activists, who said Mohammed Salamah al-Harbi was being imprisoned for having an "open discussion" with students.Al-Harbi was convicted of questioning and ridiculing Islam, discussing the Bible and defending Jews, judicial officials said Thursday on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.Prosecutors acted after a complaint by students and al-Harbi's fellow teachers, officials said. The court in the northern province of al-Qassim heard the case Saturday in a six-hour trial.Al-Harbi was in prison Thursday, but the Saudi newspaper Al-Madinah reported him as saying he would appeal the verdict."There are charges that the judge read which are unknown to me, such as defending Jews and the Bible, ridiculing Islam and witchcraft. It's strange that the judge ruled so quickly and wanted to end the case so fast," al-Harbi was quoted as saying.His lawyer, Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, refused to talk to The Associated Press because of the sensitivity of the case, but he was quoted as telling Al-Madinah the judge refused his request to postpone the trial to allow time for a proper defense."The judge's refusal to read a statement by witnesses is a violation of the defendant's rights," al-Lahem was quoted as saying in Sunday's edition.New York-based Human Rights Watch said al-Harbi had been "talking to his pupils about his views on a number of current topics, such as Christianity, Judaism and the causes of terrorism.""The Saudi government is imprisoning schoolteachers for having open discussions with their students," said Sarah Leah Whitson, the group's Middle East director said in a statement Thursday. "As long as schoolteachers face persecution for doing their job, Saudi children will lose out."Al-Harbi's sentence likely will be seen as a setback to Saudi moves to reform its education system. Following the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, the government altered the school curriculum to remove passages from textbooks that were offensive to Christians and Jews in an attempt to encourage moderation and tolerance.Fifteen of the 19 hijackers in those attacks were Saudis. Local intellectuals and newspaper columnists said the strict Islamic tenets followed in schools and mosques could have played a role in fostering Islamic militancy.
Saudi Teacher Sentenced to 750 LashesBy TAREK AL-ISSAWI, Associated Press WriterThursday, November 17, 2005(11-17) 09:10 PST DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- A Saudi high-school chemistry teacher accused of discussing religion with his students has been sentenced to 750 lashes and 40 months in prison for blasphemy, officials said Thursday.The court ruling was condemned by human rights activists, who said Mohammed Salamah al-Harbi was being imprisoned for having an "open discussion" with students.Al-Harbi was convicted of questioning and ridiculing Islam, discussing the Bible and defending Jews, judicial officials said Thursday on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.Prosecutors acted after a complaint by students and al-Harbi's fellow teachers, officials said. The court in the northern province of al-Qassim heard the case Saturday in a six-hour trial.Al-Harbi was in prison Thursday, but the Saudi newspaper Al-Madinah reported him as saying he would appeal the verdict."There are charges that the judge read which are unknown to me, such as defending Jews and the Bible, ridiculing Islam and witchcraft. It's strange that the judge ruled so quickly and wanted to end the case so fast," al-Harbi was quoted as saying.His lawyer, Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, refused to talk to The Associated Press because of the sensitivity of the case, but he was quoted as telling Al-Madinah the judge refused his request to postpone the trial to allow time for a proper defense."The judge's refusal to read a statement by witnesses is a violation of the defendant's rights," al-Lahem was quoted as saying in Sunday's edition.New York-based Human Rights Watch said al-Harbi had been "talking to his pupils about his views on a number of current topics, such as Christianity, Judaism and the causes of terrorism.""The Saudi government is imprisoning schoolteachers for having open discussions with their students," said Sarah Leah Whitson, the group's Middle East director said in a statement Thursday. "As long as schoolteachers face persecution for doing their job, Saudi children will lose out."Al-Harbi's sentence likely will be seen as a setback to Saudi moves to reform its education system. Following the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, the government altered the school curriculum to remove passages from textbooks that were offensive to Christians and Jews in an attempt to encourage moderation and tolerance.Fifteen of the 19 hijackers in those attacks were Saudis. Local intellectuals and newspaper columnists said the strict Islamic tenets followed in schools and mosques could have played a role in fostering Islamic militancy.
Antonio, do you feel what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm pointing out that the example you showed me represents internal issue within the Muslim community. It deals with the Saudi's reaction to what they deamed heretical teaching by another Muslim. Which is a different subject.
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
so what are your thoughts on the above verses?
Quote from: Allah's Slave: Abdul-Infinite on December 02, 2005, 03:21:48 PMAntonio, do you feel what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm pointing out that the example you showed me represents internal issue within the Muslim community. It deals with the Saudi's reaction to what they deamed heretical teaching by another Muslim. Which is a different subject.That's exactly the point, man. I live in Italy. Well, it doesn't matter Christians are in overwhelming majorit here: Italy is still considered a non-religious Country by our Constitution, and everybody is allowed to follow and preach his favourite religion, with no limitations and with nobody forcing other people to preach a particular religion. At school, kids can choose if they want to partecipate to (Christian) lessons of religion or not. And they can partecipate to Islam lessions too, if they ask it. Here in Italy they've made a law so they had to remove all the Crucifixes from our public places (included schools) to respect people who ain't Christians. Here there are a lot of mosquees, expecially in Rome, basically where the Pope lives. There are 8 huge mosquees in Rome. And about 150 other mosquees all over our Country. You know what i mean? Why do you still consider Saudi Arabia a muslim nation? Religion should have nothing to do with the organization of a Country. I mean it's not acceptable for me to believe here in Italy, in the Country where the Pope lives, we are so "liberal", and there you can't be like us. Why? Why can't we have Christian Churches there? Why can't a teacher talk about Jesus Christ at school?
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
I'm extremely happy to read it. I knew it. That's why i don't think we should make a Christians vs Muslims war. But I was thinking.. i'm a Roman Catholic Christian, the religion of the Pope of Rome. We have separated ourselves from the other branches of Christianity who was born after the original one (i mean we've never accepted them). There's a strong separation between "us" and the other people who still consider themselves Christians. Why don't you do something similiar with other people who claim to represent the same religion you do? Why did you call them people in Saudi Arabia "muslims"? Matter of fact they're representing a religion different from your. You should separate yourself from them fakers.
so all somebody has to do is claim a belief in allah and in the Quran and you'll consider them a brother and offer them your support? Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. That just sets you up to be taken advantage of by the Jerry Fallwells of your religion who will claim to believe, but only use their belief to manipulate others. It's not healthy for your religion to blindly accept and support anyone who claims to be a muslim. It seems similiar to the current situation in America, where the biggest assholes in this country are the one's who most loudly proclaim to be patriotic americans (see bill orielly, rush limbaugh). Then some people who dont really think things thru say to themselves, yeah these guys are patriots just like me, so i am gonna support them. If any group wants to stay strong it needs to take a stand against those who don't support the core ideals of the group. In your case certain muslims are at odds with the core beliefs of islam even tho they claim to have faith.
Quote from: Antonio on December 02, 2005, 03:41:32 PMQuote from: Allah's Slave: Abdul-Infinite on December 02, 2005, 03:21:48 PMAntonio, do you feel what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm pointing out that the example you showed me represents internal issue within the Muslim community. It deals with the Saudi's reaction to what they deamed heretical teaching by another Muslim. Which is a different subject.That's exactly the point, man. I live in Italy. Well, it doesn't matter Christians are in overwhelming majorit here: Italy is still considered a non-religious Country by our Constitution, and everybody is allowed to follow and preach his favourite religion, with no limitations and with nobody forcing other people to preach a particular religion. At school, kids can choose if they want to partecipate to (Christian) lessons of religion or not. And they can partecipate to Islam lessions too, if they ask it. Here in Italy they've made a law so they had to remove all the Crucifixes from our public places (included schools) to respect people who ain't Christians. Here there are a lot of mosquees, expecially in Rome, basically where the Pope lives. There are 8 huge mosquees in Rome. And about 150 other mosquees all over our Country. You know what i mean? Why do you still consider Saudi Arabia a muslim nation? Religion should have nothing to do with the organization of a Country. I mean it's not acceptable for me to believe here in Italy, in the Country where the Pope lives, we are so "liberal", and there you can't be like us. Why? Why can't we have Christian Churches there? Why can't a teacher talk about Jesus Christ at school? the vatican is very powerful in itally and can operate great deal of censorship to stop things they deem damaging to their religion for example getting il caso calvi banned, although i may be wrong on this i'd like to hear your views on what kind of power the vatican can exert on italy